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    Ah Queensland , one big amusement park, if it's not the politicians, it's the motorists, pensioners in their white socks and sandles. You have to love it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies View Post

    1. He should have ridden his cycle up behind the last motor vehicle in the queue,
    2. stopped behind that vehicle indicating his right turn intention with his hand signal.
    3. When the lights turned to green and the cars in the lane ahead proceded along the road ahead and off into the horizon he would move forward to the intersection and wait;
    4. when the traffic coming the other direction had passed then he could have made his right hand turn.


    That way the cars coming up behind could have moved to lane one and continue along the road and not be obstructed by the queue jumping road obstructing cyclist.
    The main reason why what has been suggested above won't work is that it will probably result in the cyclist getting killed or injured.

    Waiting to turn at the head of a queue of stationery cars is safer than following that queue up to the intersection from the rear and waiting to turn right whilst the next lot of traffic approaches from the rear at speed. From experience I can tell you that a right hand turn signal will be pretty much invisible to a car approaching from behind at 60kph until it's too late for them to change lanes or stop. All they see is a red flashing tail light but often won't realise the cyclist is actually STOPPED.

    Again I read comments here that suggest people think a cyclist pulling in front at lights to turn or whatever is some sort of conspiracy to deliberately obstruct motorists. Get over this! It's about doing what seems safest.

    If I need to turn right, yes, I ride up to the head of the queue (as is permitted under Qld road rules) and make actual person to person eye contact with the car in front. Once they know what I'm trying to do, they usually let me cut across to the right hand side of the lane and I do my best to keep in the centre of the road so they can pass on my left if they're going straight ahead. Once again, it's about being courteous, but I will always put safety ahead of courtesy.

    Where there is a particularly high volume of traffic or simply no space to wait in the centre of the intersection, I will ride across to the other side of the intersection when the light goes green and press the pedestrian crossing button. This option however results in ALL the traffic being stopped, so I use it as a LAST resort.

    Perhaps the licensing issue that's also being discussed here can be addressed by making it compulsory for everyone to do 25hrs on a bicycle so they understand the flip side of every situation when they're driving. It does alter your perception of what is safe when you're on the least protected form of transport on the road. That way a bicycle class of license becomes a mandatory part of getting a car license.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solmanic View Post
    when you're on the least protected form of transport on the road
    less then a motorbike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    less then a motorbike?
    Yes.
    No brake lights, no illuminated indicators and a smaller visible profile. Plus, if you're wearing lycra knicks correctly, no undies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by solmanic View Post
    Yes.
    No brake lights, no illuminated indicators and a smaller visible profile. Plus, if you're wearing lycra knicks correctly, no undies.
    apart from the smaller visible profile, the rest are good reasons why they should not be on the road

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    Quote Originally Posted by solmanic View Post
    Yes.
    No brake lights, no illuminated indicators and a smaller visible profile.
    Plus, if you're wearing lycra knicks correctly, no undies.
    Aaaaagh ...............................

    Didn't really need to know that.
    Cheers .........

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    yes....when sitting in a cafe sipping coffee with your lovely wife and half a dozen of them 'click clack' in knackers swinging in the breeze in time to the clacking of their shoes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ramblingboy42 View Post
    yes....when sitting in a cafe sipping coffee with your lovely wife and half a dozen of them 'click clack' in knackers swinging in the breeze in time to the clacking of their shoes.
    Definitely not swinging in the breeze.
    Tucked up nice and tidy, wrapped in nice soft chamois, and all encased in Lycra.
    Some even been rubbed all over with chamois cream.
    It's the main reason I ride
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    Quote Originally Posted by RHS58 View Post
    Definitely not swinging in the breeze.
    Tucked up nice and tidy, wrapped in nice soft chamois, and all encased in Lycra.
    Some even been rubbed all over with chamois cream.
    It's the main reason I ride
    Must be somewhat stinky, a bunch of sweaty cyclists, maybe they should stay out of places where people are eating.
    Back to the concept of courtesy, if I was hot and sweaty from whatever, I would scrub up,before going to an eatery.
    By all means get a Defender. If you get a good one, you'll be happy. If you get a bad one, you'll become a philosopher.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyG View Post
    Must be somewhat stinky, a bunch of sweaty cyclists, maybe they should stay out of places where people are eating.
    Back to the concept of courtesy, if I was hot and sweaty from whatever, I would scrub up,before going to an eatery.
    Yes I don't get that mentality either.

    Better talk to Mick, he's a self confessed coffee shop cyclist

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