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    Quote Originally Posted by digger View Post
    Manslaughter in my opinion, knowingly doing this.)
    yep

    these people want to take advantage of the lifestyle afforded by high density population centers but don't want the follow the rules that have evolved to make such population densities successful.
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    Thankyou Digger for your inciteful correction of Garry's blatant error.
    What was he thinking!
    Quote Originally Posted by digger View Post
    ... and yes, in this case nothing would make a difference as this "hippie" has made a decision that has cost their kid their life...

    Manslaughter in my opinion, knowingly doing this.)
    Oh, yes. agree with you there.
    That course of action is at least addressing the real problem. Hopefully that would discourage anyone else from doing the same, or at least think twice.

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    Who says it's sold along side 'normal' milk. It isn't. It's sold in health food stores as a non processed food. This is the reality. It's just marked as a beauty product because the law says it must be. It is packaged in 'normal' milk containers because that is the industry standard. These appear to be the facts as far as I can see.
    Earth mother is actively seeking this product.
    Milk must be stored in a cabinet that can chill to -5*c. And there are ridged penalties for noncompliance. Do the health food stores have to store a beauty product to these standards?

    I've seen earth mother, and she ain't bathing in milk!!

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    i have seen it for sale in the same fridge.....

    i don't normally venture into health food stores...

    was a small suburban supermarket in an affluent area
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    How does a child proof lid stop an adult opening the container and knowingly feeding their child with raw milk?
    By all means, put a child proof lid on the container but that doesn't solve the problem.
    it will solve accidental deaths.
    i think banning raw milk alotgether goes too far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    i think banning raw milk alotgether goes too far.
    why?

    it's a needless dangerous product...

    what possible use is there for it apart from pretending you are cleopatra?
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    Quote Originally Posted by landy View Post
    Who says it's sold along side 'normal' milk. It isn't. It's sold in health food stores as a non processed food. This is the reality. It's just marked as a beauty product because the law says it must be. It is packaged in 'normal' milk containers because that is the industry standard. These appear to be the facts as far as I can see.
    Earth mother is actively seeking this product.
    Milk must be stored in a cabinet that can chill to -5*c. And there are ridged penalties for noncompliance. Do the health food stores have to store a beauty product to these standards?

    I've seen earth mother, and she ain't bathing in milk!!
    I reckon you are right there.
    Any further laws on packaging, labeling and child proof lids aren't going to make any difference. Using the same laws we use for feeding someone bleach, however, may have more of an impact. And the good thing is we don't have to make any new laws.

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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    i have seen it for sale in the same fridge.....
    I've not. Even the A2 milk I buy is in a different fridge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    i have seen it for sale in the same fridge.....

    i don't normally venture into health food stores...

    was a small suburban supermarket in an affluent area
    I think you missed my point entirely. My point is that it is knowingly sold for human consumption. Be that small supermarkets or health food stores. It is just labeled to satisfy the law.

    Nino.

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    Quote Originally Posted by incisor View Post
    why?

    it's a needless dangerous product...

    what possible use is there for it apart from pretending you are cleopatra?
    i know there are some beauty/spa/massage salons that use it.
    i do appreciate your point though

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