Thread: Our "Justice" System?

Parole board entirely at fault there.
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[QUOTE=BathurstTom;2519765]Ok you self proclaimed experts. A case study for you.

Take an 8 year old boy and his younger sister. They were being sexually and physically abused by their alcoholic parents and all of their parents drinking buddies.

At age 14 the boy found release. It was called heroin.

He spent 19 out of 23 years in jail because of his addiction.

A question for you experts before I go any further.

Should this person be rehabilitated or not?


Not much detail for a case study but I would suggest that a 14 year old heroin addict who then went on to spend 19 of 23 years in gaol was offered considerable rehabilitation. How many convictions did he amass before he ever saw the inside of a gaol? Between the age of 14 up to 18 he would have certainly have been offered considerable counselling and assistance. A product of child abuse certainly does not have a good start in life of that there is no doubt. But you don't get to use that as an excuse for everything that goes wrong for the rest of your life. And what about the sister?

We seem to come up with the argument that we can't afford to gaol these mongrels as our gaols are full and it costs too much.
Build more gaols and stop wasting money elsewhere,we seem to find money for rubbish elsewhere.

Originally Posted by Roverlord off road spares

We seem to come up with the argument that we can't afford to gaol these mongrels as our gaols are full and it costs too much.
Build more gaols and stop wasting money elsewhere,we seem to find money for rubbish elsewhere.

At around $292 a day to house a prisoner? Are you going to make voluntary contributions so that the rest of us are not paying taxes?

Tom.

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Originally Posted by BathurstTom

Ok you self proclaimed experts. A case study for you.

Take an 8 year old boy and his younger sister. They were being sexually and physically abused by their alcoholic parents and all of their parents drinking buddies.

At age 14 the boy found release. It was called heroin.

He spent 19 out of 23 years in jail because of his addiction.

A question for you experts before I go any further.

Should this person be rehabilitated or not?


Not much detail for a case study but I would suggest that a 14 year old heroin addict who then went on to spend 19 of 23 years in gaol was offered considerable rehabilitation. How many convictions did he amass before he ever saw the inside of a gaol? Between the age of 14 up to 18 he would have certainly have been offered considerable counselling and assistance. A product of child abuse certainly does not have a good start in life of that there is no doubt. But you don't get to use that as an excuse for everything that goes wrong for the rest of your life. And what about the sister?

He first went to jail as an adult.

Tom.

Originally Posted by BathurstTom

Ok you self proclaimed experts. A case study for you.

Take an 8 year old boy and his younger sister. They were being sexually and physically abused by their alcoholic parents and all of their parents drinking buddies.

At age 14 the boy found release. It was called heroin.

He spent 19 out of 23 years in jail because of his addiction.

A question for you experts before I go any further.

Should this person be rehabilitated or not?


Tom, the bleeding heart.

G'Day Bathurst Tom, Attila The Hun here. Firstly, I ain't no expert, I'm simply giving my opinion.
Not enough details, of what he's done, is he in jail now, etc etc?
However I would like to think that EVERYONE is capable of, & would respond to, "rehabilitation", but clearly, many don't.
Pickles.
NB: I see you mentioned in an earlier post,.."Parents". COULDN'T AGREE MORE. In many cases, involving youth, they have a lot to answer for.

Hmmm I'm sure wading into this thread is unwise
Let's take an Australian case study

Take one group of Australians - for offences that the remainder of Australians would get suspended sentences or community orders - lets instead jail them.
Once that groups incarceration rate is ten times that of the non chosen group let's look at the way that high jailing rate has created such a strong deterrent to crime that the chosen group now enjoy safe crime free lives.....

Hmm yeah we tried that

This is complex for every perceived shortfall there will be over sentencing mistakes abuse of the legal system.

Instead why not do your darned est to NOT walk past that which you want to get all up in arms about on the Internet.

Pickles if you are so abhorred about domestic violence please go to your local women's shelter and offer to mow lawns or do maintenance or anything helpful. Whining about sentencing is a past time we are getting better at as we all isolate ourselves and ignore each other.