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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post
    Simple ignorance on the part of the grid/plant managers, fixed now.

    but earlier you said



    Originally Posted by bee utey
    Good thing that there are competent people running the grid,
    Originally Posted by bee utey
    Good thing that there are competent people running the grid,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eevo View Post
    but earlier you said



    Originally Posted by bee utey
    Good thing that there are competent people running the grid,
    Originally Posted by bee utey
    Good thing that there are competent people running the grid,
    People competent in old style grid management learnt how to handle wind power, now they're competent in handling wind power. Learning is what most intelligent people do to become competent in new systems. Heard of this technique, have you?

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    Re large solar and the grid - I work with this a lot and while large amounts of solar is a challenge to the supply authorities, they can cope with it and what is planned - it just means other things within the system need to be updated along the way in the zone subs where it becomes an issue. Not insurmountable by any means. When Islanding a section of the grid for maintenance and running it off large gensets it becomes more of an issue but again - a known one and they can work around this too. There are whole towns in rural Vic that output far more power than they use each day now - the grid was modified to cope - it’s usually around the old systems never being designed for current to run the opposite direction.
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    I read that installing battery banks at sub stations may be one way to stabilize the grid by storing power locally.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    I read that installing battery banks at sub stations may be one way to stabilize the grid by storing power locally.
    That's right, but the batteries can be anywhere within a grid area and add to stability. Households, small businesses and industrial premises can have batteries installed that can trade power to keep the grid stable too. And if the grid goes down it's still of use to the premises where it's installed, assuming its configured that way. The more redundancy is built into the grid the more reliable it becomes for every user.

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    Yes, decentralising storage is a great idea. It's the opposing trend to centralisation, which leads to monopolies and inflated prices.

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    cost of batteries (tesla) is too high for me.
    a substation of them might work but, would lead to the same monopoly issue we have now.
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    Another battery installation to provide backup power at a key Adelaide intersection:

    Installing an uninterrupted power supply to provide temporary backup power to the intersection in the event of a power outage.
    Safety upgrade for the Greenhill Road and Portrush Road intersection, Linden Park - DPTI - Department of Planning, Transport and Infrastructure South Australia

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    Quote Originally Posted by bee utey View Post

    these are reasonably common at major intersection bee. tollgate/bottom of the freeway has one.
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    I've largely stayed out of this thread because I know very little about power generation,....quite happy to admit that.
    However, I could never see the sense, or the reasoning, in the closing of Hazelwood without a reliable similar cost alternative when so much capacity, particularly in Victoria would be lost.
    Anyway, facts are facts, I know how much my Electricity bills have increased, & I'm not alone.
    A local business, where we regularly spend a few dollars, has been in the Media. The owner of Doyles Deck has stated that his monthly account, since Hazelwood's closure, , has increased from $8k to $24k per month.
    Page 4 Age, Thursday June 7.
    Pickles.

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