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    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ransition-plan

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    https://www.theguardian.com/commenti...ransition-plan

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    Hazelwoods closure was a commercial decision made by it's private owners, the French company, Engie.
    The transition plan, you'll have to ask them. Or another private energy company.

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    Well said Mick.

    No one made the decision to shut it down but the owners, for their own reasons.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 350RRC View Post
    Well said Mick.

    No one made the decision to shut it down but the owners, for their own reasons.

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    Apparently is was due to the success of the greens...

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    Commercial decision. It wasn't worth upgrading the worn out plant when solar and wind power is cheaper now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    Commercial decision. It wasn't worth upgrading the worn out plant when solar and wind power is cheaper now.

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    Sigh...

    Power has been $32-35/a megawatt since I was atyallourn W 15 years....

    Unions have pushed the wages up how much?

    The Grubbyment has pushed the royalties on coal up how much?

    The cost of materials has risen how much?

    The list goes on, we are a bunch of retards with no pragmatic point of view, as you seem to wish to prove, who will happily cut our nose of to....

    Who are the parliamentarians that were pro closure, now offering "support", what a circus

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post
    Apparently is was due to the success of the greens...
    Still a commercial decision, which they, and only they made.

    How old is the bloody thing and if the SEC was still around when would it have been de-comissioned and something else (burning brown coal) put in its place?

    Years ago I suspect.

    Gonna watch with interest who pays for the demolition seeing it is privately owned. >>

    With a bit of reference to the owners of Morwell open cut who didn't want to cough up for the fire bill because they'd been paying council rates that now include the fire services levy.

    And a bit of reference to the potential fed bill of 4 billion to compensate victims of abuse, of which some having been committed inside massive 'institutions' or 'businesses' that totally failed in their duties of care.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 350RRC View Post
    Still a commercial decision, which they, and only they made.

    How old is the bloody thing and if the SEC was still around when would it have been de-comissioned and something else (burning brown coal) put in its place?

    Years ago I suspect.

    Gonna watch with interest who pays for the demolition seeing it is privately owned. >>

    With a bit of reference to the owners of Morwell open cut who didn't want to cough up for the fire bill because they'd been paying council rates that now include the fire services levy.

    And a bit of reference to the potential fed bill of 4 billion to compensate victims of abuse, of which some having been committed inside massive 'institutions' or 'businesses' that totally failed in their duties of care.

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    It was tongue in cheek about the greens, self proclaiming their "victory", bunch of tossers

    Correct, as I've earlier posted, Loy yang b is 2 units short, then Flynn station, then Driffield, gaining efficiency along the way, look at Germany's new super critical brown coal boilers they are building currently after they screwed up going overboard with renewables, if it wasn't for our short sighted stupidity, hazelwood would of shut close to 20 years ago and we would have more and more efficient generation, from literally burning dirt a couple meters underground, some of the cheapest power available in the world with oodles of it

    The northern batter was dug many years ago, well before privatisation, far from the companies fault at the time, it should of been clay capped way back when, Morwell mine is one and the same with hazelwood

    With any luck lithium batteries will be the way of the future, cause atleast it has a few key attributes, like open cut mining, just like coal and a waste we got no idea what to do with, just like nuclear

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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    Commercial decision. It wasn't worth upgrading the worn out plant when solar and wind power is cheaper now.

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    Educate me, after stripping out subsidies how is solar and wind power cheaper than coal power. Wind, solar have many attributes, but I don't think cheapness is one of them, especially when you factor in backup power for those nights with no wind.
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    I saw an article, where?, about a Japanese company looking at generating hydrogen from brown coal and injecting the carbon into the Bass Strait reservoirs.

    That would be a worthy project for Victoria, hydrogen, carbon capture, vehicle design, fuel distribution, research and large scale trial.
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