
 Originally Posted by 
JDNSW
					 
				 
				My usual approach to Lilydale was over the hills north of Lilydale, not through the gap (if the ceiling is low enough that you have to use the gap, then the clouds (and the CTA steps) are uncomfortably close to the hills west of Lilydale). 
And you are right - the 150 tends to bounce about (I did my basic training in  Victa, which has much higher wing loading). My first Cessna flying was in my 180, and most of my other Cessna flying has been in 210s. In general I have only flown a 150 when I could not rent anything else.
			
		 
	 
 I did my training at LIL. PA28. The saying there with novice pilots was "if the ceiling is so low that you have to use the gap, fly another day". It's reasonably easy to fly up the wrong 'valley', and by the time you realise it there is no room to turn back, so it's IFR or crash. I ran out of money before I got my PPL, so I never had to worry about it.....
I did a few hours in a 150 at Redcliffe in Qld before I returned to Melb in the 80s
				
			 
			
		 
			
				
			
				
			
			
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