Thread: "Weapons" in vehicles

Originally Posted by Gordie

What's the saying...the law is an ass....but it is what we have to live with. Depends if you can afford to spend more on your lawyer, than the state can on theirs!! Going back to the OP question.....a lot cheaper and easier..not to carry a machete unless you have a lawful reason to do so!! And yes, I agree re SA!!!!!

The law is most definitely an ass. However, we now need a definition of "lawful reason". I carry, on a regular basis, about 100 things that would easily kill someone if I put my mind to it. My toolbox is full of them. Every screwdriver I own, even the little ones I use on electronic gear, could kill you. I could burn you to death with my gas torch, or blow you up with it's cylinder.. I have around a dozen hammers of various types, all of which are the proverbial 'blunt instrument'. Same thing with spanners, pipe wrenches, pry bars, etc. etc. I could electrocute you with my welders ( pity I can't use them to weld ), I could garrotte you with the cord, rope or fishing line I carry. I could suffocate you with the fire extinguisher. A year ago I could have wiped out hundreds with the 26 metre B Double I drove. I reckon my disco could do a better job than that nutter did on Bourke Street. I could make a bolt gun out of compressed air, like they use on horses, and that maniac in 'No Country For Old Men'. My nephew was trained by the Military to kill people with his bare hands. Quickly, and silently.
I'm with Weeds. The car is a bigger weapon than what's inside it, unless what's inside it is a bomb. My son has some experience of those. Our police, driven by idiotic politicians, have a tendency to overreact.

The parang is a tool, no more, no less. Unless you intend to drive around f****ed of your brain on ice. In which case I hope the police shoot you. Darwin at work.

Originally Posted by Gordie

Exactly DiscoMick! Most of us on here would have no ulterior motive in carrying such items...and I would rather have my 'rights' curtailed, than let some scumbag have carte-blanche to carry weapons. Usually the people who scream for 'civil liberties' are the ones who are first to screech "why didn't the police stop that criminal". We can't have it both ways.

"and I would rather have my 'rights' curtailed," Would you? Would you really? All that does is prove that the terrorists are winning. I thought my son and my nephew went to war to prevent that. I thought all those blokes in my family, and possibly yours, went to war to prevent that. Where will YOU be on ANZAC Day? I'll be in Thailand, honouring people who died to protect our freedom.

Never mind the terrorists....we have plenty of crap citizens amongst us to worry about! On Anzac day, I will be making the choice, as to whether I go to work, stay in bed, or attend a parade...a choice that our forebears fought for. I thank and remember them for that.

Back on subject......carry a machete if you can show legal reason.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Truckies are normally reasonable people.
There are numerous reports of cops tasering violent people and, if necessary, pulling guns. I don't criticise the cops for that, in most cases. There is an ice epidemic and many reports of drivers going violent when pulled over. Cops are being assaulted by motorists.
I am related to a magistrate and my previous work used to take me to court frequently, so I don't believe I am exaggerating.
All I am saying is, if you carry a weapon then one day expect to be asked to justify it. If you can't, or act suspiciously, then expect a serious response. Is it worth the hassle?

If you have the connections you say, and I stress I have no reason to doubt you, then you would know that around 98% of police involvement in almost any situation winds up with no charges. Police are well trained to assess situations, and generally the training comes through.

Sorry, "numerous reports" means precisely nothing. Police have thousands, if not millions, of interactions with the public every day. Try finding and producing evidentiary reports of those Taser or sidearm incidents. I doubt you can. 6:30 "Current Affairs" programs don't count. Hey, I'm not dumb. I live in Victoria, where the Police shot, "in the line of duty" 28 people. I am aware of Apex gangs ( if you don't have them, pray that you never get them ). When was the last report we had of "armed police arrest knife owner at gunpoint"?

Screwdrivers, hammers and similar tools have innocent uses, but machetes exist simply for chopping stuff, including flesh. They are designed to be weapons.

This is a silly thread, and has degenerated into a ridiculous rant on freedoms.

We already have far too many controls on our lives. We need more freedom, not less ( A Bill of Rights will give us less ). Most of the population are reasonable people, and should be treated as such. I doubt I've ever seen so many frightened responses to a thread on this forum than this one. If you want to give in to the threat of terrorism, that's your choice, but to deny some grey nomad the opportunity to slice his onions seems a little extreme. My favourite kitchen knife is more than twelve inches long...Be afraid..... I await the knock on my door.....

I have only noticed one person ranting and getting off subject.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Screwdrivers, hammers and similar tools have innocent uses, but machetes exist simply for chopping stuff, including flesh. They are designed to be weapons.

Oh, Please. A machete was designed to cut through bush. Nothing more, nothing less. My hammers were designed to hit objects quite hard. Would you care to take a bet as to which one, out of a machete and a hammer, is the most prolific murder weapon?? Bet you lose.