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    Quote Originally Posted by 87County View Post
    In NSW, as far as council ranger standards go, if your load is restrained but not covered you'll be in trouble, on the other hand if is covered and not restrained then that's apparently OK

    Just have a blue tarp and some occy straps
    I dont know about council rangers but if you had a pallet of bricks in the back unsecured but covered with a blue tarp and occy straps then the NSW cops will get you if they see it. (yes an extreme example)

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    Quote Originally Posted by 87County View Post
    Good morning Mr Marsh - I take it that this method is not generally approved ?

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    Is that a rated strap with rating tag (showing it's rating and conformity to Australian standards) still attached?
    I don't see why not.

    Hang on, I think you may need a few more straps at the forward side of the load.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 87County View Post
    Good morning Mr Marsh - I take it that this method is not generally approved ?

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    No it`s not there is still a loose end on the strap

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    Yes but the OP is in QLD not VIC - rules are different in every state and I know that in NSW is it not enough to just have the load covered - it has to be secured with appropriate restraints for the load being carried - sounds similar in QLD.
    You'll notice the Vicroads site refers to a "National Transport Commission" document. The WA, SA and NSW sites also refer to this document. Now, although some Queenslanders do not think they are part of this nation, and some interstaters wish they weren't part of this nation, I suspect "Federation" tells another story.
    It's a national authority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    You'll notice the Vicroads site refers to a "National Transport Commission" document. The WA, SA and NSW sites also refer to this document. Now, although some Queenslanders do not think they are part of this nation, and some interstaters wish they weren't part of this nation, I suspect "Federation" tells another story.
    It's a national authority.
    Who publish guidelines, not enact laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    Who publish guidelines, not enact laws.
    Well, post up the "Laws" then.
    Where do we find them?

    I've found the "National Road Rules" that merely state that your load be "properly secured". Then it fails to define either "properly" or "secured".

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    Quote Originally Posted by 123rover50 View Post
    Next, they said the load should be covered. Yesterday the bill came. $230 odd but the charge was not an uncovered load it was "Person in control of private light combination fails to ensure couplings comply."
    Thats got nothing to do with what I was doing. Do I pay and admit to that charge or contest it?

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    Contest it and ask the judge if the police man can blow into the bag or do a lollypop test perhaps?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NavyDiver View Post
    Contest it and ask the judge if the police man can blow into the bag or do a lollypop test perhaps?
    it would be a magistrate, not a judge
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    I think you'll find you are required to pay the fine upfront. If you contest it you may get a refund or reduction.
    Centrelink is using the same approach with robo-debt letters. People have to pay it. If they win a challenge they may be adjusted later. Apparently we are automatically guilty and it is up to us to contest it.
    Here are the Queensland rules:

    Restraining loads (Department of Transport and Main Roads)

    Webbing and straps are the way to go. Tarps and occy straps are not OK.

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