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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    I wonder what the back-to-front cap brigade will do with their Milo tins when electric is mainstream.
    I put an Ovaltine tin on the Camry. I think it fell off somewhere around Dartmoor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mick_Marsh View Post
    I put an Ovaltine tin on the Camry. I think it fell off somewhere around Dartmoor.
    Did it go faster?
    If you don't like trucks, stop buying stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    Did it go faster?
    Yes. Absolutely.
    It was one fast Ovaltine tin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johntins View Post
    Servos are going to carry these for exchange, are they?

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    Seems unlikely in my lifetime.
    Then pure electric cars will just remain towncars - if you want to use your electric car when you want it, will need to be some sort of hybrid.

    For sure - cars like Tesla will have enough range to drive between Sydney an Canberra but if you then want to also use it when you have arrived you will need to plug in it for quite a long while and catch the buses, use Uber or hire another electric car.

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    Did full electric cars exist a decade ago? and if they did I wonder what there range was? I think this is progressing very quickly. Would love to see whats in store for us in a decades time.
    I reckon good on Tesla for pushing this particular barrow. Can only eventually get better for all of us.
    Kenley

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    Quote Originally Posted by garrycol View Post
    Then pure electric cars will just remain towncars - if you want to use your electric car when you want it, will need to be some sort of hybrid.

    For sure - cars like Tesla will have enough range to drive between Sydney an Canberra but if you then want to also use it when you have arrived you will need to plug in it for quite a long while and catch the buses, use Uber or hire another electric car.
    There are already fast chargers that can add more than 1/2 a charge in 1/2 an hour. Not the same as a 10 minute refuel for sure, but people will adapt. Then there is the fact that wherever there is a power connection, there can be slow charging. Shopping centres and CBD's will want people with electric cars to linger for a while so will have free/cheap slow chargers all over the place. In the UK a company has gone around and replaced street lights with LEDs and freed up cable capacity to have a charge port on every converted pole. Adelaide City Council wants to roll out a network of curbside chargers and of course some rich ratepayers are complaining that the council should stick to fixing potholes and rubbish collection.

    So unless a daily drive involves multiple drivers sharing a 1500km trip with only 15 minutes off every 3 hours, electric cars will one day be entirely adequate for most people. And that doesn't preclude rental companies having regular car swap stations on major routes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Geedublya View Post
    I've ridden a 250 Freeride and the suspension and brakes weren't up to scratch, as the electric version has the same running gear I think it will be crap also.
    Most of the guys and girls I know who bought Freerides have moved them on.
    Ahh that link was for the E bike, not the petrol powered free ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenleyfred View Post
    Did full electric cars exist a decade ago? and if they did I wonder what there range was? I think this is progressing very quickly. Would love to see whats in store for us in a decades time.
    I reckon good on Tesla for pushing this particular barrow. Can only eventually get better for all of us.
    Kenley
    Full electric cars have a longer history than petrol cars, their biggest killer was Henry's Model T. A short history of electric cars I found:

    Electric Car History (In Depth)



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    You live and learn. who'd've thunk it.
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    Everyone has their opinion, and are of course entitled to it. Mine is that electric cars are an engineering and developmental cul-de-sac. They are unlikely ever to be a practical alternative to internal combustion. People won't adapt. They want everything now, not in 15 minutes. There is nothing else that can explain MacDonalds.

    A proper, efficient, clean alternative already exists. The cars exist, ordinary cars, not exotic flights of fancy like the Tesla. Honda makes one, Hyundai make them, BMW as well. The infrastructure to fuel them exists across California, and can easily exist here. It draws nothing from the grid that petrol, diesel or LPG infrastructure already draws. The cars can be fuelled in much the same time that an ordinary car can. There are no issues punted into the future, such as battery disposal. The cars perform in much the same way as we are used to.

    Here's one: 2017 Clarity Fuel Cell – Environmentally-Conscious Vehicles | Honda

    Here's another:Hyundai ix35 Fuel Cell Electric Vehicle - Hyundai Australia

    Hydrogen is the most abundant element in the universe. It requires no 'strip mining' for it's production, unlike batteries. The by products of using hydrogen to power cars are oxygen and water.

    Why on earth, if you have environmental concerns, would you support appallingly destructive battery solutions? Destructive in mining, destructive in various stages of processing, and destructive at end of life, AND require grid power for reliable recharging. It is a short sighted route, whose main function seems to be, to me at least, to make Elon Musk rich. Well, I trust Honda way more than I trust a shyster like Musk.

    Not saying hydrogen cells are perfect, not by a long way. But they are far closer to it than battery tech.
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