God V8 Discoveries are getting cheap

**cewilson** · 21st February 2006, 04:42 PM

You've got to be kidding aren't you! I've heard some good reasons and arguments for Diesel vs Petrol before - but some of them ones are quite funny indeed!

Yes fuel economy is a big plus for diesels - nothing new there.

Yes diesel is available more in the outback compared to petrol - nothing new there.

Yes petrols are generally quicker vehicle than diesels - nothing new there.

Yes some diesels smoke - nothing new there either. But I will say you might want to have a look at some of the diesel engines coming out now days - they may suprise you.

Yes petrol is meant to be better in sand etc - excellent. But I'm yet to have any major problems with beaches like Stockton, or deserts like the Simpson in my 200tdi.

Overtaking - never had a problem again. My Defender is capable of 140km/h plus (I've spent a lot of time in the NT). It may take a little (and note little) longer than a petrol to get there but so what.

Personally I think that both engines in the vehicles are very capable, and do exactly as they are designed to do.

BUT, at the end of the day it's your decision alone as to what you have bought, and you can make either argument seem worthy! :wink:

**Pedro_The_Swift** · 21st February 2006, 05:49 PM

Originally posted by PhilipA
OK , I can't resist.
Yes a diesel is much cheaper on fuel .
BUT that is the only thing a diesel is better at. Oh forgot fuel range.

1 Overtaking -V8 every time
2 climbing steep hills and overtaking on a hill , forget it.
3 Acceleration. Once a chipped (I assume) or delusions of grandeur D2 tried to drag me from the tolls at the M5. I had 5 people in and he had 1. within 100 metres he was about 30 behind. UK tests tested the hottest chipped diesels on a VERY cold day. None beat about 13 seconds 0-60. SLOOOW.

4 Reliability-. Yeah V8 s do head gaskets, and just about nothing else. Diesels seem to do everything at eye watering cost. Just one diesel problem seems to be the cost of a brand new V8. And one problem buys a lot of petrol.
5 Slow off road work-. I am in the discovery club. Lots of disco diesels. Trying to get up a step in a diesel auto. Nothiiiing, nothiiing, LOTS of power. Oops there go the sills. V8 pulls consistently from about 800rpm.
6 Sand work- steep hill diesel no go
7 Diesel is dead under the foot. A V8 feels alive and responsive and sounds luvverly.
8 Diesel finicky on fuel. On our recent club trips the only stopping problems we have had are diesels not going properly from dirty fuel.

I believe you ain't seen nuthin yet on the difference between diesel fuel price and petrol.
The V8 defence rests.
Regards Philip A

And what a defence it was

**Pedro_The_Swift** · 21st February 2006, 05:54 PM

AND---

I'm actually looking forward to this soft cam thing happening,,( though at 280 odd thousand no signs yet

)

because then if I "chip' (read new cam) my V8 you guys in diesels wont even HEAR which way I went.

**Jamo** · 21st February 2006, 05:56 PM

Yeah, but if you put a bullet through a petrol tank, the car will blow up!

With a diesel, you'll just lose your fuel.

**Pedro_The_Swift** · 21st February 2006, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by Jamo
Yeah, but if you put a bullet through a petrol tank, the car will blow up! With a diesel, you'll just lose your fuel.

has to be a tracer---

and V8's move too fast to get shot

**one_iota** · 21st February 2006, 06:07 PM

Originally posted by Pedro_The_Swift+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pedro_The_Swift)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Jamo
Yeah, but if you put a bullet through a petrol tank, the car will blow up! With a diesel, you'll just lose your fuel.

has to be a tracer---

and V8's move too fast to get shot

[/b][/quote]

I'm going to get a sticker made:

"Caution: Land Rover powered by Napalm"

**dungarover** · 21st February 2006, 06:18 PM

For the 4wd work I do which involves lots of hard, steep and diff-lock type hills with plenty of 'surprises' thrown in for good measure, the V8 engine is suitable for my needs. Plenty of torque from idle and quick response.

The tdi/td5 would give me the ****s off-road IMO. Plus you can't bet that melody from the exhaust, the fuel costs are well worth it.

Trav

**dungarover** · 21st February 2006, 06:20 PM

Originally posted by one_iota+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(one_iota)</div><div class='quotemain'>

Originally posted by Pedro_The_Swift@
<!--QuoteBegin-Jamo

Yeah, but if you put a bullet through a petrol tank, the car will blow up! With a diesel, you'll just lose your fuel.

has to be a tracer---

and V8's move too fast to get shot

I'm going to get a sticker made:

"Caution: Land Rover powered by Napalm"[/b][/quote]

If you make 'em, I would definatley want one.

It can go next to the other sticker I have, 'I plaster Mon to fri, and get plastered on the weekend!!!'

Trav

disco95 · 21st February 2006, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by Pedro_The_Swift+--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Pedro_The_Swift)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Jamo
Yeah, but if you put a bullet through a petrol tank, the car will blow up! With a diesel, you'll just lose your fuel.

has to be a tracer---

and V8's move too fast to get shot

[/b][/quote]

I think I saw them try that one out on mythbusters. No matter what they did they couldn't get the car to blow up. :roll:

**Captain_Rightfoot** · 21st February 2006, 06:23 PM

Hmmm.. on our desert trip we used 160l. the petrol rangies used more like 350l. Where would i put it? 8O 8O

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