The question needs to be " Why did this loser have a license to loose after so many offences"Originally Posted by PAT303
OR
"Why was he still on the streets and not locked away " after his killing of a 6 yr old when over 3 times the Blood Alcohol limit.
Unlike some - I don't have any sympathy for those behind the wheel of any vehicle when effected by drugs or alcohol.
Time the legal system had to explain why these people are not punished fairly , especially for causing the death of innocent people.
Cheers Ean
OldBushie
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Fixed it for you
ForumSage
Im more worried about drivers texting or using phone than drunk / drugged drivers. ... Its a matter of percentages.
If the Govt were serious about stopping speeding it would be so simple to speed limit every new car to 130kmh , still plenty of scope there for revenue raising , just a simple software adjustment. Sure people will find workarounds as they do for most things but its a start.
Whilst there at it introduce software to stop phones from working when in a moving car.
Swaggie
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what about passengers or people on the bus?
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Swaggie
What about phones of the passengers?
Swaggie
Subscriberone third of fatals are high or drunk. thats a pretty big percentage.
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RoverLord
Especially when you consider that random breath test campaigns rarely find more than 1% of drivers above the limit, and never above 2%.
Part of the issue in identifying problems is assigning a single cause to accidents - there is very rarely a single "cause". For example, the alcohol affected driver, who has an accident while answering the phone and speeding - what is the "cause" of the accident? (This is a contrived situation, although probably common.) The BAC is readily measured, and in some circumstances the speed, and it is likely to be possible to prove phone use. But other factors that contributed to the accident are not easy to identify - these may include the road layout, the vehicle design, the circumstances that led to the affected person driving, weather conditions etc.
As for phone use - if you travel to the USA, as I did only a month ago, it is worth noting that only some states prohibit phone use while driving. This should give a good opportunity to show how harmful the practice is. In fact, there is no apparent difference in accident statistics between states that do and do not prohibit phone use. Of course, this could mean that the prohibition is ineffective, but it is difficult to believe it would have no effect at all. And it is worth noting that the statistics show similar declines in accident rates for states with and without the prohibition as mobile phones have gone from rarities to ubiquitous.
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Swaggie
If anyone is lucky enough to go for a drive in a truck to have the best view just take note how many idiots have their phones in their hands or on their lap`s will astound you
In the last 2 weeks I have driven about 6000kms on country highways , and it seems to me that we have, to quote a line from a favourite movie of mine " The world went and got itself in a darn hurry ". The main issue I seen , and I seen lots of it , was cars of all sorts , most either towing trailers with roof racks full as well , overtaking without even the slightest idea of what is / could be coming the other way. A lot of the time it wasn't till the cars pulled out they realised how long the roadtrain they were overtaking really was.
Twice I have cars get level with me only for them to have to brake and pull back in behind due to trucks coming the other way. I did notice when it was cars coming the other way they seemed more game to push the issue. Most of those kms driven was in a 3 trailer roadtrain , and people didn't even sit in behind to asses the conditions up ahead they just pulled out and went for it , corners, hills, double lines, it didn't matter.
So my point is , was it people who had holidays and were trying to get somewhere in a hurry and getting stuck behind a roadtrain might cut short their holiday by a few minutes/hours ? Or is this now the norm ??. When we go on holidays and we drive , we treat the drive as part of the holiday , or we transport the car to somewhere and fly in and collect it.
Also , and this may just be me - cars seem to do higher speeds a lot easier these days , hell I remember some of my first cars being 6 cylinder 3 on the tree jobs and to get it up to 100 you needed a cut lunch and water bags , now they seem to reach speeds a lot easier. I wonder if this contributes to those that are in-experienced drivers getting themselves into trouble. There is also a lot more caravans on the road these days it seems and this just adds to the problem of those people who are just in a rush.
I don't think on country roads its any 1 single thing , but impatience is most likely the main cause , but I believe in the city mobile phones certainly are a big cause as it seems everyone tries to run their business whilst driving. As was said , sit in a truck and see how many people are on their phones and its prolly 8 out of every 10 cars.
Just my 2c
Cheers Ean
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