Another senseless tragedy

**tact** · 2nd January 2018, 10:01 AM

Originally Posted by goingbush

Im more worried about drivers texting or using phone than drunk / drugged drivers. ... Its a matter of percentages.

If the Govt were serious about stopping speeding it would be so simple to speed limit every new car to 130kmh , still plenty of scope there for revenue raising , just a simple software adjustment. Sure people will find workarounds as they do for most things but its a start.

Whilst there at it introduce software to stop phones from working when in a moving car.

The more recent versions of Apple's iOS has a setting in the "Do Not Disturb" section called "Do not disturb while driving" that allows iPhone users to opt in to having ALL phone notifications turned off, automatically or manually, when driving. (includes no screen turning on, no camera flash flashing, no ringing, no vibration and no beeps/sounds for messages etc)

(Optionally automatically sending a msg to callers telling them you'll get back to them after you get the notification of their call or msg once you stop driving. Also optional, one can set up certain numbers that can break through the "do not disturb" for emergencies - giving the sensible person a chance to pull over and call back immediately)

The Apple "do not disturb" settings won't stop those who, by their own volition, deliberately pick up and use their phones as they please while driving anyway. But I like it for what it IS worth. (Likely this functionality is also available on non-apple smart phones too).

(The Apple version of the Do Not Disturb setting wasn't originally created for the driving situation. I have been using it for a year or two (since it was first available) to put my phone into "do not disturb" mode automatically from 10PM to 7am just for the peace and quiet. Certain people have the ability to break through if needed)

**AndyG** · 2nd January 2018, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by tact

The more recent versions of Apple's iOS has a setting in the "Do Not Disturb" section called "Do not disturb while driving" that allows iPhone users to opt in to having ALL phone notifications turned off, automatically or manually, when driving. (includes no screen turning on, no camera flash flashing, no ringing, no vibration and no beeps/sounds for messages etc)

(Optionally automatically sending a msg to callers telling them you'll get back to them after you get the notification of their call or msg once you stop driving. Also optional, one can set up certain numbers that can break through the "do not disturb" for emergencies - giving the sensible person a chance to pull over and call back immediately)

The Apple "do not disturb" settings won't stop those who, by their own volition, deliberately pick up and use their phones as they please while driving anyway. But I like it for what it IS worth. (Likely this functionality is also available on non-apple smart phones too).

(The Apple version of the Do Not Disturb setting wasn't originally created for the driving situation. I have been using it for a year or two (since it was first available) to put my phone into "do not disturb" mode automatically from 10PM to 7am just for the peace and quiet. Certain people have the ability to break through if needed)

Need to bring back road gangs for when you do time. Junction of walkers track and Birdsville track wouldbe agood starting point, and no A/c tv etc

**AndyG** · 2nd January 2018, 10:15 AM

Oops didnt mean to quote

**vnx205** · 2nd January 2018, 12:17 PM

Originally Posted by tact

Way back (more than 40yrs) when I was an apprentice to a gov't electricity board, a road safety session was organised in the apprentice training school. All apprentices were to watch a movie, Canadian police force I think. There was so much gore and viscera, bits of bodies scooped into bags etc, that some ran from the room vomiting.

Not sure it led to any changes to driving behaviours. Certainly didn't change mine.
... .... ....

About 40 years ago I read an article that suggested that one thing that did affect driving behaviour is personal experience of a near miss.

The article suggested that if a young driver almost killed himself in the first twelve months, he was slightly less likely to kill himself during the rest of his driving life.

Apparently the problem with the movie you saw is that people automatically assume it is showing something that happens to other people but won't happen to them. The near miss supposedly gets the message across that it could happen to you.

I have no idea if any other research supported the findings of the article i mentioned.

**Eevo** · 2nd January 2018, 12:25 PM

with virtual reality tech today, it would be reasonably easy too give a new driver a scare as part of their licencing.

**tact** · 2nd January 2018, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by Eevo

with virtual reality tech today, it would be reasonably easy too give a new driver a scare as part of their licencing.

Given the gaming mindset prevalent amongst today's driver candidates - am not sure a VR experience will have any more impact than a movie.

**workingonit** · 2nd January 2018, 12:47 PM

Why 'virtual', when it can be a theme park ride?

Two pendulum cages, two 'P' plate occupants per cage, design to collide with each other at any speed dependent on draw back before release. First ride, standard ride 15 kph each cage, with seat belts. 2nd ride, option no seat belts. 3rd ride, option ride operator playing on their phone. 4th ride, option ride operator drunk and on phone. etc.

**Eevo** · 2nd January 2018, 12:59 PM

Originally Posted by tact

Given the gaming mindset prevalent amongst today's driver candidates - am not sure a VR experience will have any more impact than a movie.

a movie your not in control. in VR, it responds to your input.

i think it would be too realistic and could give people PTSD, so need to think carefully about it

**Eevo** · 2nd January 2018, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by workingonit

Why 'virtual', when it can be a theme park ride?

Two pendulum cages, two 'P' plate occupants per cage, design to collide with each other at any speed dependent on draw back before release. First ride, standard ride 15 kph each cage, with seat belts. 2nd ride, option no seat belts. 3rd ride, option ride operator playing on their phone. 4th ride, option ride operator drunk and on phone. etc.

15kmh is no good. people will survive and think all crashes are like that.

**workingonit** · 2nd January 2018, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by Eevo

15kmh is no good. people will survive and think all crashes are like that.

Hence 'etc' and the random outcome of operators being distracted. Is my math wrong and it would not be a combined impact of 30 kph? Somewhere on the Gold Coast I would think, maybe around 'Schoolies' week. You can also nominate a drunk mate to tension and release your cage - probably not fair on like the opposing cage, an an stuff, an that...(to the sound of gum being chewed).

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