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    Quote Originally Posted by donh54 View Post
    I'm picking that as a pipe-layer (with the booms removed). That piece on the RHS of the crawler, with the yellow/black stripes, would be the counter weight. Extremely heavy on one side. Those machines are very, very "tippy" without the booms on. Whatever caused the rollover, that would have contributed a lot to it. Once something like that starts going over, you're just along for the ride!
    It's interesting. The trailer is a simple low loader. It isn't a swing wing, nor is it a platform. There is no dolly. So the mass can't be all that great, you wouldn't think. I've never moved a pipe-layer. Is the counterweight removable? If it is, perhaps it should have been up on the goose neck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johntins View Post
    Not at all. I wasn't even attempting to criticise you, or Shane. I was merely agreeing with Homestar. "Probably" or not, neither you or I know the circumstances of the rollover. Best not to comment on blame in that situation, don't you think?
    Thats cool , Interestingly the results of a major Investigation in Truck roll overs in the USA and without all the preamble of the investigation the findings were put into 7 catagories of which the causes were combined are - Speed , Attention , Control , Search , Pre Operation , Other drivers , Vehicle and Truck Components .

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    Quote Originally Posted by johntins View Post
    It's interesting. The trailer is a simple low loader. It isn't a swing wing, nor is it a platform. There is no dolly. So the mass can't be all that great, you wouldn't think. I've never moved a pipe-layer. Is the counterweight removable? If it is, perhaps it should have been up on the goose neck.
    Its more than likely a deck-widener (adds yet another "Tippy" element into the equation!), possibly a quad axle. You can have up to 27 tonne over a quad group.

    I pulled a quad deck-widener and dolly for a while. You could quite easily get the tie rails to within an inch of the ground with a 40 tonne excavator onboard travelling the Leichardt Goat-track.

    AFAIK, the counterweights are quite a job to remove. I haven't carted pipe-layers myself, but I know quite a few blokes (and one girl) who have. They were all unanimous in their dislike of them. The worst was one poor bloke who had to cart one from up near Biloela to Toowoomba for another gearbox. It could only be reversed on, so the counterweight was on the left hand side. Reckoned he had some really scary moments on that trip!
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    I saw an interesting float today. It was a widening deck, quad. The axle groups were obviously two bogies. The rear group were conventional while the front wheels widened with the deck, there was massive camber on the front paying the group. Glad I'm not paying the Beaurepaire bill!
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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    Glad I'm not paying the Beaurepaire bill!
    Try a platform, Ian.
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    Truck driver approaches corner at safe speed, brakes, looks left and right, all clear, starts to proceed around the corner. Hoon behind him frustrated at having been held up behind a semi decides to undertake and cuts in. Truckie has to swerve to avoid running hoon over. Unbalanced load (see above discussion of what the load is) causes trailer and truck to tip.

    Truck might've been doing everything right.

    (no idea if the above suggested scenario is possible)

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    I have seen countless loads like this and far larger being carted up and down the North West coastal hwy and have never seen one on its side.
    I take my hat off to the poor sods that have to cart these sorts of loads as it must be a bugger of a job.
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    Undertaking shouldnt have done that.

    A sudden flat tyre, blown airbag, load shift, brake fault, add a wind gust, maybe.

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    Taking load security a bit far?

    Glad there was no-one in the front seat when loading

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    Quote Originally Posted by 87County View Post
    Taking load security a bit far?

    Glad there was no-one in the front seat when loading

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