Thread: Elon in the pooh - again!

Apparently he's still worth $19 billion so he won't starve.
He reminds me a bit of Steve Jobs - brilliant but eccentric.
Where did it all go wrong for Elon Musk?
Elon Musk's controversial year sees him relinquish Tesla chairman role. Where did it all go wrong? - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Originally Posted by DAMINK

Did you watch him smoke pot on youtube with Joe Rogan? Not long ago actually. A couple of weeks ago .
I was expecting people to link the 2 together. "He smoked pot with Joe so it must have fried his brain" and thats why he got caught being a manipulative bastard lol.

No, he was a manipulative bastard long before smoking pot - unless he was in the habit from about 10...

I should point out for the record that just because I don't like Musk it doesn't mean I'm anti E or anti Tesla - I think me views on EV's is well know and I'm a big supported but Musk is basically a scam artist - most of his money has come from private and government funding - not from any profits his companies have made. Take the Hyperloop for example - how many 100's of millions has he scammed from that already when it's clear it can never be built and never will be as he imagined it.

While Teslas development of the Electric vehicle should be applauded, it is a looooooooong way from being finacially viable and the whole company could go belly up before it is the way it's going which would be sad, but major OEM's are on the verge of making the biggest impact here anyway now. It's only surviving at the moment from money customers are paying up front for a vehicle that can't be delievered yet. It's a dangerous game.

Sadly success is often measured by wealth. When from my experience it has nothing to do with money. One shot at life and try be happy and all that crap.
I imagine most wealthy people obtain there wealth by screwing the rest. Its why the division between rich and poor is getting amplified at an alarming rate.

I dont doubt Elon is one of these people. That said he does have an interesting way of looking at things. And from my understanding one hell of a work ethic. Just always working.
I recall a conversation he had with Rogan regarding AI. Really interesting to see his mind working as he is asked questions. And he has some very strong views regarding that.

Almost like he can see into the future or he is helping to write the future.......

Musk didn't start Tesla, but he has done some interesting things with it.

One of the great advantages of working with other peoples' money, is that it makes it easier to try approaches that a more conservative business, working within its' means, would not take the risk on. It also helps if a significant proportion of your investors have an almost religious fervour regarding anything you say or do.

Apparently the management of SA's power grid are "pleasantly surprised" at how effective the battery pack system is - even if it is only on a small scale in relation to the overall grid usage.

Many owners of Tesla cars are very happy with their purchases, at least until the warranty runs out, or panel parts are required. But you could say the same about LR owners, I guess!

I agree he is a very intelligent person. But intelligence doesn't doesn't always translate to the ability to make smart choices.

Originally Posted by donh54

Apparently the management of SA's power grid are "pleasantly surprised" at how effective the battery pack system is - even if it is only on a small scale in relation to the overall grid usage.

Only surprised financially. They buy power when it's cheap and sell it when it's expensive. It's way too small to stabilise the grid.
I'd love to see their profit/loss statement. I think it will show they're not making as much money as they think.

ONE disastrous tweet has finally revealed Elon Musk for what he is: a fraud.


Enraged that a British cave diver called his idea to rescue the Thai soccer team for what it was — “a p.r. stunt [with] absolutely no chance of working” — Musk took to Twitter and called him a “pedo.”


Just like that, Tesla’s market value plummeted by $2 billion.


Musk has been in business since 2002. His stated goal is nothing short of transforming humanity through his products: his electric cars, space travel, and an underground high-speed Hyperloop system.


He has yet to succeed at anything but somehow spins every failure into proof of imminent success. His only accomplishment has been this decades-long Jedi mind trick.


Tesla is best known for blowing deadlines and consistently falling short on production.


In November 2017, Bloomberg reported that the company burns through $500,000 per hour. For two years now, Tesla has been suffering an epic talent drain and in May, two top execs — one the liaison with the National Transportation Safety Board — walked out the door.


That’s to say nothing of the human toll.






In March, a Tesla driver was killed while test-driving an auto-piloted Model X, the impact fully decimating half the car. Then in May, the NTSB announced an investigation after two teenagers were killed in a Tesla Model S after its battery caught fire following a crash. A similar accident claimed a driver two months prior, with California firefighters reporting that the Tesla battery kept reigniting itself days after the smash.


California’s Division of Occupational Safety and Health opened its third investigation into workplace safety at Tesla Inc. in July after employee complaints. Two investigations have been ongoing since April, yet Musk took to Twitter to boast that Tesla was now building its cars in a tent.


“Not sure we actually need a building,” he tweeted. Meanwhile, he was “back to sleeping at the factory” to hit production deadlines.


This is a genius?


Tesla was founded in 2003, but the world’s largest automakers quickly surpassed Musk’s vision for electric vehicles. Tesla will never catch up. Shareholders are finally catching on.


So should the government, which reportedly gifts Musk’s companies with an estimated $4.9 billion in subsidies.


Star investor Jim Chanos called Tesla a “walking insolvency” back in 2016. He doubled down in December, saying Tesla is “headed for a brick wall.”


SpaceX — which Musk touts as replacing NASA and colonising Mars — has been a literal failure to launch. So many of its rockets have burned up or crashed that Musk, for reasons unknown, has made a blooper reel.


As for that Hyperloop, most experts say it’s impossible and unnecessary. “It gives me pause to think that otherwise intelligent people are buying into this kind of utopian vision,” Harvard professor Jose Gomez-Ibanez told MIT Technology Review in 2016.


“They’re up against the airlines, and airlines don’t need to install hundreds of miles of track.”


Rocket scientist and aerodynamic engineer Leon Vanstone has called the Hyperloop yet another Elon Musk hustle.


Writing in Fortune, Vanstone asked: “Is it possible to build a Hyperloop train into a 200-mile underground tunnel on a reasonable timeline that moves people in 29 minutes [from DC to New York] and isn’t prohibitively expensive? Probably not.”


Musk infamously does not take criticism well and refuses to be questioned or challenged — three lethal traits in a leader. On a conference call with analysts in May, Musk dismissed questions about Tesla’s diminishing capital and other dubious claims with name-calling.


“Excuse me,” Musk said. “Next. Boring boneheaded questions are not cool.”


Tesla’s stock plummeted 5.6 per cent after that performance. They also dropped 5 per cent after an April Fool’s Day tweet in which Musk announced Tesla had gone bankrupt.


“Elon plays by his own rules,” a former Tesla exec told The Washington Post, “but I think he underestimates the weight of his own words.”


Musk’s attempts to insert himself into the Thai cave rescue show he has less intelligence and even less humanity than we realised.


He finally apologised on Wednesday for his disgusting accusations against the hero diver, but only after shareholders demanded it and not without accusing the diver of lying, insisting his own efforts weren’t p.r.-driven but “an act of kindness.”


Oh — and that the sub he built was “to specifications from the dive-team leader.”


In other words: Musk isn’t sorry and nothing is ever his fault.


Business as usual.

He seems to have got one thing right. Faster than coal!

Tesla battery proves a leading source of dispatchable power, AEMO says - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)