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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    I can see EVs being popular in Europe where a Golf is about the biggest high volume car and of course diesels banned from cities etc . But Australia is different in many ways.
    Possibly, but a large number of Oz commuters would be perfectly happy with an EV they could charge at home. The "second car", say a traditional 4WD, is the one they do "trips to the country" in.

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    V8Ian, you should be ashamed of yourself posting copy-pasted Yankee hate screeds without a link to the source.

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    The "second car", say a traditional 4WD, is the one they do "trips to the country" in.
    So why have the masses not adopted Prius? 20000 sold in about 10 years and lots of those sold to Government departments to show their virtue. AFAIK , Toyota don't even fit lithium batteries to Australian Prius as I read that the new model when introduced remained with NiCad, presumable to ration the lithiums to higher value markets.
    I personally would welcome an EV for a reasonable price say $20K which has a conservative range in traffic on a hot day of at least 300Km.
    But it isn't going to happen in my lifetime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
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    I personally would welcome an EV for a reasonable price say $20K which has a conservative range in traffic on a hot day of at least 300Km.
    But it isn't going to happen in my lifetime.
    Regards Philip A
    its happening now in China & India , your probably right it wont happen here any time soon , due to Govt ineptness & the Marketing ******* that load cars up with useless crap gadgets & creature comforts that no one actually needs . (well elitists think they need it but in reality they just want it)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    So why have the masses not adopted Prius? 20000 sold in about 10 years and lots of those sold to Government departments to show their virtue. AFAIK , Toyota don't even fit lithium batteries to Australian Prius as I read that the new model when introduced remained with NiCad, presumable to ration the lithiums to higher value markets.
    I personally would welcome an EV for a reasonable price say $20K which has a conservative range in traffic on a hot day of at least 300Km.
    But it isn't going to happen in my lifetime.
    Regards Philip A
    Toyota never offered the plug in version of the Prius here. And of course partly due to VW lying through their teeth about their "clean diesel technology" many people weighed the Prius against the opposition and found it wanting. So now the "clean diesel" mirage has been busted people will be looking for cleaner, cheap to run small vehicles to commute in. And that may well be plug in vehicles of various brands, if the major manufacturers can be bothered importing them. First these vehicles will be sold in countries actively promoting cleaner transport, then when they've satisfied those markets they'll filter through to Australia. But come they will.

    Funny how Prius sales have risen sharply since Dieselgate hit the fan, eh?

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    More reading on the screed posted below

    Total B.S.! | Tesla Motors Club

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    It seems to be one of those notorious emails that run around from time to time, spreading misinformation.

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    I thought we'd moved on from here, but it seems pertinent to repost this video


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    Increased use of electric driverless cars (available on demand via an app) will change the whole ownership, private transport, car dealership and maintenance picture in about two generations.

    Few people will have a licence or own/buy a car, home garages will become redundant, fuel stations will reduce in number, cars will require less servicing, and servicing will be more centralised. So local mechanic and tyre shops will disappear. Collisions will be reduced (not eradicated) so repair shops will reduce in number.

    Buying/owning a new ICE vehicle will become more expensive.

    Another new technology disruption is just around the corner. But electric cars are not new. I have a Brisbane news paper article I found under floor coverings when renovating which was from the 60s about a then old car converted to electric with a solar panel.
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    Apart from Utes, I think it is small cars such as the Mazda 3 which dominate sales now. They are prime candidates to go EV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rar110 View Post
    Increased use of electric driverless cars (available on demand via an app) will change the whole ownership, private transport, car dealership and maintenance picture in about two generations.

    Few people will have a licence or own/buy a car, home garages will become redundant, fuel stations will reduce in number, cars will require less servicing, and servicing will be more centralised. So local mechanic and tyre shops will disappear. Collisions will be reduced (not eradicated) so repair shops will reduce in number.

    Buying/owning a new ICE vehicle will become more expensive.

    Another new technology disruption is just around the corner. But electric cars are not new. I have a Brisbane news paper article I found under floor coverings when renovating which was from the 60s about a then old car converted to electric with a solar panel.
    Agreed but Im in 2 minds about Autonomy, I think its going to be a way off yet, maybe not the way that millennial are not interested in cars ownership or needing licenses .

    I'd genuinely like to see a scan /photo of that article , True Electric cars are not new , there were more Electric cars than ICE cars for the first 15 years of the 20th century .

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