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    Quote Originally Posted by goingbush View Post
    There is no Battery backup in the NBN Fiber Nodes. So neither internet nor fixed line (POTS) customers have any service. (even if you install the optional battery backup in your premises)

    You can blame the Australian Government for that. Also Australia is the Only Country in the world that does not have trace wires with their optic cables .( cost cutting) Makes them impossible for Dial Before You Dig to locate , so expect massive disruptions in the future when an excavator digs up a cable in your vicinity. Its why I got out of the cable locating business , you cant insure against stupidity.

    Telstra Mobile towers have a 4-6 hours battery backup at most. But when the PSTN / NBN network is out the extra drain on the limited capacity makes it even worse. There is a emergency external generator connection on mobile towers but if the NBN is out or the other end of microwave link is out that wont help much. Its a shambles.

    The old PMG / Telecom copper network had built in redundancy, if a microwave link fell over you would get switched to coax or copper or vice versa . thats all gone now.
    Unfortunately some towers have minutes, because of cost cutting they don't replace the batteries . I live in a small Gippsland town,two years ago telstra did some tower maintenance speaking with the technician. Instead of 7 batteries they had one out of date battery that he wasn't allowed to replace (due to cost versus demand ) so we are lucky for 10 minutes.

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    Pretty sure I read the other week that QLD is rolling out its own network separate to NBN...I’m assuming for business but it might give opportunities for households to tap in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Erik68 View Post
    Unfortunately some towers have minutes, because of cost cutting they don't replace the batteries . I live in a small Gippsland town,two years ago telstra did some tower maintenance speaking with the technician. Instead of 7 batteries they had one out of date battery that he wasn't allowed to replace (due to cost versus demand ) so we are lucky for 10 minutes.

    depends on how important the tower is.
    my local tower doesnt have batteries.

    my local exchange with tower on top has batteries and genny.
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    One solution I have heard proposed is that electricity sub-stations be fitted with battery banks to soak up the surplus solar generated during the day and stabilise the network, before being released back into the network as required at night. This could help keep the NBN online for a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by weeds View Post
    Pretty sure I read the other week that QLD is rolling out its own network separate to NBN...I’m assuming for business but it might give opportunities for households to tap in.
    It appears Maroochydore will soon have a direct feed from offshore,, so Sid in e, WA and Maroochydore.

    " The project includes a 550 kilometre undersea fibre optic cable that will connect the Sunshine Coast to the 9,600 kilometre Japan-Guam-Australia-South (JGA-S) submarine cable."
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    The Govt legislates everything else,so why not legislate that depending on location,the towers must have back up batteries that last so long?

    Pretty important in an emergency situation.

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    When building my own comms network in PNG, no NBN or Telstra equivalent in my area, i put up a 50m tower with enough solar and battery to last a week of continuous rain, like maybe 200 mm per day *7, never had to use the genset in 5 years. Of course the secret is load. I used efficient PTP devices ( with a range of 30km), but mobile towers are hungry beasts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    The Govt legislates everything else,so why not legislate that depending on location,the towers must have back up batteries that last so long?

    Pretty important in an emergency situation.
    Who do you think should pay?
    The govt?
    The local users?
    Other users who dont live in that area
    The shareholders who expect a return on their capital

    Someone somewhere has to pay
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    One solution I have heard proposed is that electricity sub-stations be fitted with battery banks to soak up the surplus solar generated during the day and stabilise the network, before being released back into the network as required at night. This could help keep the NBN online for a while.
    Why not require the wind farms/solar to store the surplus on their site until needed, why pass the burden to the distributor. And of course without more subsidies
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift View Post
    It appears Maroochydore will soon have a direct feed from offshore,, so Sid in e, WA and Maroochydore.

    " The project includes a 550 kilometre undersea fibre optic cable that will connect the Sunshine Coast to the 9,600 kilometre Japan-Guam-Australia-South (JGA-S) submarine cable."
    Thata a Huwai project, i expect it hss been blocked for security reasons
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