‘But WHY’

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Originally Posted by p38arover

Back in 1970, when my wife and I went on our honeymoon, we flew from Mebourne to Tassie n a Lockheed Electra. The rear seats were set along the fuselage sides, inward facing, so one looked at the pax on the opposite side.

I remember the old bloke opposite us who was sweating profusely, wiping his brow with the dirtiest of hankies.

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Back in 1972 at a Boys Brigade Pan Australian Camp held in Rabaul, we flew TAA DC-3's configured for freight ie canvas drop down seats along the sides facing inwards. We flew Port Moresby to Lae, Lae to Rabaul and Rabaul back to Moresby. Some were lucky to get into an F-27 for one direction which I did not.

Largest airlift since the war they informed us, moving over 400 boys in a couple of days. Ansett ran DC-3's as passenger aircraft with forward facing seats in New Guinea at the time.

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Originally Posted by numpty

As can a C-130

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Is there a video somewhere? I've never seen it. Would love to see. I can understand how they would do it with prop blade angle.

Also would the P3 be able to do it due to the same engine gearbox combo? Again, never seen that while at Edinburgh.

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Originally Posted by Konradical

Is there a video somewhere? I've never seen it. Would love to see. I can understand how they would do it with prop blade angle.

Also would the P3 be able to do it due to the same engine gearbox combo? Again, never seen that while at Edinburgh.

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If you google "C-130" reversing there's a you tube video. I saw one doing this at Tamworth in the early '90's

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Originally Posted by numpty

If you google "C-130" reversing there's a you tube video. I saw one doing this at Tamworth in the early '90's

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Will do, thanks!

I wonder if the design of the later J and H models cut this away. They are the only two I have had experience with.

Most advanced STOL aircraft can reverse - it is a byproduct of being able to use reverse thrust to shorten the landing run. Whether it is an approved operation can be another matter, as questions of debris ingestion and running into things are factors.

Where I have seen it was a Pilatus Porter. (We had one chartered in PNG in 1971.

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Originally Posted by numpty

Back in 1972 .....
Largest airlift since the war they informed us, moving over 400 boys in a couple of days. Ansett ran DC-3's as passenger aircraft with forward facing seats in New Guinea at the time.

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When we lived in Ceduna in 1970-71, Elisabeth flew Adelaide -Ceduna in an Airlines of SA DC3

I wonder if she noticed the rivets in the wing rotating with vibration?[bighmmm]

Something like that has to wear out, right?

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Originally Posted by Konradical

I was lucky enough to do a tailgate ride on one of those in 2006 before they were decommissioned. A mate of mine was good mates with the Loady and by chance they were doing some practise supply runs from RAAF Edinburgh to Cultana and back.

Was a fantastic experience I'd never forget, including the Loady pretending to shove me out the back. The lanyard we wore was just long enough to be slack but catch you if you lent forward. Needless to say I had to change once on the ground.

Another rough, noisy and vomit inducing ride was in a Huey.. they would fly faster if they didn't shake so much.


Just on the being a citizen thing. I could name at least seven current members who received citizenship status after entering Defence. Not sure how, but they were probably suitable or met requirements on enlistment.

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Felt quite strange looking at the ground through the open door while banking sharply, realising that it was only centrifugal force that held you in. No, not enough seat belts on my flight, just a joy ride.[bighmmm]

The next year (1976) one slammed into a hill at Cultana & I think 5 or six persons died. I was at Adelaide Airport when the remains of those killed were brought back on a flat top truck & unloaded out of a C-130.

Have never found an online reference to that accident. Curious.

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Originally Posted by numpty

As can a C-130

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Aah! But a Caribou can reverse while it's in the air!
Heading into Shoalwater Bay, we were watching the trees going the wrong way during some head-on gusts of wind.
They were thinking of cancelling the flight, but since it was only carrying grunts, they figured the replacement cost would be bugger all if things went wrong!