Thread: Climate Change and our Land of Fire, Flood and Drought.

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Work contracts often prohibit the employee from making public comments which can be linked to the place of employment - mine certainly did. You may have noticed I never identified my work place. So I understand why Evo feels limited in his response to Ian.
Mind you, I still think it's bull to blame the Greenies. They're not in government.

I'm not going to waste any more time on the trolling posts.
I spent more years than he's been alive in Emergency Services, too many of the claims simply don't stack up.

Originally Posted by AK83

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this is raw BoM data easy to find if you do your own searching for data, rather than rely on alarmist information.
(I'm not sure where the link will take you, but it takes me to the BoM trend line graphing page n rainfall .. it may take you to another data set, if so, look for rainfall in the top left).

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that was my reply way back in #184, note the link to the information. I made it bold so as to not be missed this time.

Originally Posted by bob10

Not sure where you found your information, but people can check for themselves here.

If you're questioning 'my information' .. firstly it's not my information.
If you follow the link I posted back then you can see where I got the data.

I can post a long winded summary of it all if you like(actually I did and NBN went down and I lost it all), but it'll be a long read that no one will want too.

This is an excellent insider's view of the Wytaliba fire.

This is climate changed. Pray for rain. Pray harder for leadership

This is climate changed - pray for rain, pray harder for leadership | Badja Sparks | Opinion | The Guardian

'Victoria isn't burning, but it will': Australia's fire chiefs fear fatigue will take terrible toll

'Victoria isn't burning, but it will': Australia's fire chiefs fear fatigue will take terrible toll | Australia news | The Guardian

Originally Posted by AK83

that was my reply way back in #184, note the link to the information. I made it bold so as to not be missed this time.



If you're questioning 'my information' .. firstly it's not my information.
If you follow the link I posted back then you can see where I got the data.

I can post a long winded summary of it all if you like(actually I did and NBN went down and I lost it all), but it'll be a long read that no one will want too.

Thanks for posting. But you know what they say about posting with no facts to back it up. Fake news, according to Trump.

Originally Posted by V8Ian

I'm not going to waste any more time on the trolling posts.
I spent more years than he's been alive in Emergency Services, too many of the claims simply don't stack up.

I've been as respectful as possible in this matter. I'm sad to hear you feel trolled.

thankyou for your service

...so back to the effects of motoring on the environment:

In all seriousness I think we are all frustrated in one way or another about what the future holds in terms of our motoring freedom... whether it’s fears about freedom to drive our 4x4’s as we wish or fears about the impact on the environment of driving our 4x4s. They’re actually both the same issue. ...how to improve our relationship with the natural environment that sustains human life while maintaining our motoring freedom?

Either way the problem is that most of the solutions are out of our hands as citizens.

Unfortunately the environment has become a political football with major corporate interests and governments holding all the power. Yes we can vote once every three years, but this is a very slow route to the change required urgently. Yes we can walk or cycle instead, but this obviously isn’t practical in most situations.

This article outlines both the need for higher quality fuel standards in Australia. As well as better support for EV infrastructure going forward. Unfortunately both require leadership and significant funding which seem to be largely absent at the moment.

Wrong turn: why Australia's vehicle emissions are rising | Environment | The Guardian

Even if a tradie wants an EV they are not yet available and neither is the infrastructure.

Even if we want to drive more efficient vehicles, not only is our fuel quality very low by world standards, this also means new vehicles will not run efficiently and will not last as long as they should. So Australia could become the dumping ground for old technology, if it’s not already.

Without great leadership on this issue, we will all continue to go around in circles, blaming whoever doesn’t suit our vested interests. The above article makes it clear that the current leadership vacuum in this country on improving vehicle emissions is fostering the type of anguish and blame shifting being constantly demonstrated on this forum.

We are actually all responsible as consumers, yet the solutions seem a long way off.

Somehow we need to unite behind finding the solutions that don’t impinge on our motoring freedom, while at the same time better care for our fragile environment. We will all be better off if we do.

...and here’s an article illustrating the reality we all face together. I can’t work out if it’s alarmist or denialist...but one thing’s for sure, praying for so called “English rain”, is not the solution! LOL.

Terrifying map shows the horror summer season ahead with scorching temperatures and extreme weather to ravage Australia - and experts say it's NEVER been this bad