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    Quote Originally Posted by Saitch View Post
    That did cross my mind, Bob. As far as I could see, 'No'.
    Over 200 have been built in the last 18 months,not one has any infrastructure for EV charging points.

    They have said until EV’s are at least 15% of the vehicles on the road there is no interest in charging points.

    So that means they will not be viable for quite a while.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saitch View Post
    On a drive yesterday, through the Maleny, Witta, Obi Obi, Mapleton, Nambour areas, I noticed three, very recently constructed, service stations.
    This got me wondering whether the fuel companies know something that us cattle are not privvy to or, that they're making hay, while the sun shines?


    I realise that it always seems to be sunny up there, but would it be all that practical for a Servo to make Hay on the same premises, taking into consideration all the dust & crap that could get into the fuel, not to mention the noise?

    Then again, maybe they will chop it up & flog it as an Alternative fuel, maybe for Horses/vehicles?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    No it doesn’t. Even if 2030 is the close off date - the stations could make a mint during the next 9 years. Then just convert.
    Of course, that makes perfect sense.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Down here we have OTR (One The Run) affiliated with BP.

    The Peregrine group.

    I’ve seen roads with 3 of their branded service stations within 1km on the same side of the road.

    It’s all about controlling the realestate.

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    They’re Among the World’s Oldest Living Things. The Climate Crisis Is Killing Them. - The New York Times

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    They have said until EV’s are at least 15% of the vehicles on the road there is no interest in charging points.....quote

    I think its going to take a lot longer than 2030 to achieve 15%

    We have 19.8million registered vehicles in Australia.

    That would basically mean over 3million electric vehicles before "they" take an interest

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    It won’t be hard to force the change. It’s the impact that will be interesting.

    Simply governments could declare a line in the sand - no more ICE vehicles are to be sold after dd/mm/yyyy

    Then tax petrol and diesel even harder and tax Fuel stations by the pump, and rebates for EV points.

    At that point it starts to change rapidly - if we like it or not.

    (Mind you, drive offs, petrol syphoning, crime will all rise)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post

    Simply governments could declare a line in the sand - no more ICE vehicles are to be sold after dd/mm/yyyy

    Then tax petrol and diesel even harder and tax Fuel stations by the pump, and rebates for EV points.
    good chance that any govt that tries that would lose at next election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    It won’t be hard to force the change. It’s the impact that will be interesting.

    Simply governments could declare a line in the sand - no more ICE vehicles are to be sold after dd/mm/yyyy

    Then tax petrol and diesel even harder and tax Fuel stations by the pump, and rebates for EV points.

    At that point it starts to change rapidly - if we like it or not.

    (Mind you, drive offs, petrol syphoning, crime will all rise)
    Political suicide.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    It won’t be hard to force the change. It’s the impact that will be interesting.

    Simply governments could declare a line in the sand - no more ICE vehicles are to be sold after dd/mm/yyyy

    Then tax petrol and diesel even harder and tax Fuel stations by the pump, and rebates for EV points.

    At that point it starts to change rapidly - if we like it or not.

    (Mind you, drive offs, petrol syphoning, crime will all rise)
    Your "starts to change rapidly" made me chuckle in a ironic way

    "In parts of Jakarta, a city of 9.6 million people, the ground has sunk 2.5 metres in less than a decade. Sea levels have simultaneously risen by 10 feet over the past 30 years." Places in the US populations reduced by 90% and other 10% hanging on stilts and raised levy banks to drive and live on.

    The are planning to move Jakarta now as they have no real choice.

    An young investment banker is just outside loading up some paving bricks I am recycling out for free. He mentioned the money flows on the topic are clear despite some parts of our views on the topic while we loaded a tonne + his nice new Ranger UTE stopped a few metres away for us to de risk as it did a dummy spit at the overload. His elderly mum was helping load! Like that crew.

    World Economic Forum paper on Global risk In partnership with Marsh & McLennan Companies and Zurich Insurance Group has brains and money I felt. Figure I: The Global Risks Landscape 2019 puts 3 items of Climate change above Data Fraud and Theft and Cyber security

    With many of my family living in high bush fire risk areas the topic is probably coming up for xmas. My feeling from reading that report is that many of us will be unable to insure many of our assets, homes and lives in many areas

    Excuse me for sounding like a Christmas Grinch. On the bright side I read sub 10 minute full charge for Toyota solid state batteries coming mid next year. That may kick my little remaining quantumscape investment.

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