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BINGO ! [smilebigeye]

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I couldn't get over how crisp and crunchy an apple was fresh off the tree. Jonathons then.

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They would have watered the orchard in those days so the fruit would have entered the room with moist interiors.
The aim of course was to retain that moisture.



The crunchy bit may have also been due to the Super Heat settings of the TEVs to maintain the room humidity & how well the Service bloke [me] [bigsmile1] had set them.:TakeABow:
Humidity was checked by a run of the mill Sling Psychrometer.

Bacharach 0012-7043 Sling Psychrometer, Celsius Scale

Any moisture that was extracted from the fruit was simply drained back onto the floor & very little was allowed to escape from there. That was picked up & recirculated by the Forced Ventilation effect of the Cooler fans. The construction of the room included an external Vapour seal which helped as well & because it was a Low Temperature Room, that stopped condensation.


Maybe some rooms used a Humidifier to keep the moisture level up. I think we aimed for about 90% RH with a room temp about 0c by just using the SH method


Have not kept in touch with today's Fruit Storage construction & storage methods but Humidity was paramount to stop fruit shrinkage /weight loss etc but I don't think it would have changed all that much, just a bit more scientific, especially with CA [Controlled Atmosphere] rooms.

I always enjoyed entering a Fruit Store because of the odour. A lovely pong.

One of the best things about servicing these rooms was the owner usually saying "Grab a feed of Apples or Pears before you go" & he would chuck you a carton & start filling it.


Only had one cheapskate & that was down the road from Collins.[bigrolf]

Yes Collingrove, My Son in Law raced there as well. Not sure but I have a feeling it is closed now. Edited 25/04 Seems is still open or that is what Wiki tells me.

Ah Happy Days.[smilebigeye]

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Heard on radio today that the stats of Covid deaths is exagerated. Dr in England stated that if a person has the Virus and dies then that has been recorded as the reason for death. Cited that if a person is diagnosed with the Virus and then jumps off a cliff and kills themselves its recorded as a Virus death not death my misadventure or suicide. Also cited that a person who had terminal cancer also had the virus and died. Which condition caused the death? Whilst I dont know if that is true or not, I do find that old people ie 80+ who have been recorded as a Virus casualty, could well have had underlying symptoms of other medical issues, and when this virus is stacked on top its just the final straw and they slip over to the other side. Would they have died of something else? Who knows.

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Originally Posted by dirvine

Heard on radio today that the stats of Covid deaths is exagerated. Dr in England stated that if a person has the Virus and dies then that has been recorded as the reason for death. Cited that if a person is diagnosed with the Virus and then jumps off a cliff and kills themselves its recorded as a Virus death not death my misadventure or suicide. Also cited that a person who had terminal cancer also had the virus and died. Which condition caused the death? Whilst I dont know if that is true or not, I do find that old people ie 80+ who have been recorded as a Virus casualty, could well have had underlying symptoms of other medical issues, and when this virus is stacked on top its just the final straw and they slip over to the other side. Would they have died of something else? Who knows.

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While that is certinly a contributor to the number of recorded deaths to some extent, there are some much larger omissions from the counts - in most of countries, deaths are not counted as covid-19 unless there is a test, and in many places deaths at home or in nursing homes or in the street are unlikely to have been tested before death and also unlikely to have a test after death, as tests are still in short supply in most places. These numbers will be vastly greater than the ones who died "with but not from" covid-19.

In addition, in the absence of testing capability, many hospital deaths have been classified as "pneumonia", or sometimes "non-flu pneumonia" (because flu tests are readily available in most countries) which, because the numbers of these have increased greatly in the last three months in many places, are likely to be covid-19.

In the UK in particular, so far the only listed deaths are those in hospital; the unusually high numbers of deaths in nursing homes have not been counted, although it is almost certain the majority of these are covid-19.

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Originally Posted by dirvine

Heard on radio today that the stats of Covid deaths is exagerated.
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The opposite is more likely to be true.

A search of "covid deaths exaggerated" brought up site like Fox News and right wing commentators suggesting exaggeration and more reputable sites saying things like,“The true facts are that COVID-19 deaths will likely be underreported on death certificates and not over-reported,” Aiken said. “This will be especially true as deaths that occur in homes, and not the hospital, mount. Not all jurisdictions are able to test home deaths with typical symptoms for COVID-19.”
Social Media Posts Make Baseless Claim on COVID-19 Death Toll - FactCheck.org

Plenty of other sites say the same sort of thing.

Yep, 20,000 nursing homes in UK where deaths are not recorded as C-19 unless the person was tested and returned positive. Similar problem in the USA, particularly NY.
True death toll understated.

The comment was what did kill people. Just the virus or something else, or a combination of everything. Unless autopsy done, how do they really know?

NOT doing thorough autopsies...and telling the Whole Truth about the findings... effectively muddies statistic waters... enabling govt and other vested interests to spin the numbers how they want.
Then there are other details, such as in the UK, it's official NHS policy to get the 'Oldies' OUT of hospital as quick as possible and back to the Nursing homes, or as one digruntled Doctor (GP) described, "COVID-19 incubators"
Nursing Home deaths are not always defined as COV - caused. Nor (always) are deaths at private residences.

Yet in the US, in some places, directives have gone out to record COV-19 as C.o.D if there's a reasonable suspicion... NO proper test needed. [bigwhistle]

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Originally Posted by vnx205

The opposite is more likely to be true.

A search of "covid deaths exaggerated" brought up site like Fox News and right wing commentators suggesting exaggeration and more reputable sites saying things like,“The true facts are that COVID-19 deaths will likely be underreported on death certificates and not over-reported,” Aiken said. “This will be especially true as deaths that occur in homes, and not the hospital, mount. Not all jurisdictions are able to test home deaths with typical symptoms for COVID-19.”
Social Media Posts Make Baseless Claim on COVID-19 Death Toll - FactCheck.org

Plenty of other sites say the same sort of thing.

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The saying is...."There is no smoke without fire" so someone is cooking the books for their own end.