Thread: Petrol VS diesel?

Originally Posted by 1nando

Anyway I'll be in a new 6 cylinder petrol defender again in 2 years

Like me you will have to wait for the 130,now you are used to the room in the y62.

The 110 will be too small,unless you pack less.

My D4 needs to go but there is nothing around i like ATM.(SWMBO thinks the Y62 is too big)

The new LC will be interesting as well.

Originally Posted by scarry

Like me you will have to wait for the 130,now you are used to the room in the y62.

The 110 will be too small,unless you pack less.

My D4 needs to go but there is nothing around i like ATM.(SWMBO thinks the Y62 is too big)

The new LC will be interesting as well.

Tbh my Mrs hates driving it around town as it's to big. On long trips though she's the first one in the car

Originally Posted by 1nando

I agree. As a example my petrol v8 makes 500nm at 1600rpm and 560nm at 4400 rpm with 298kw. Mr trout your BIG v8 diesel 4.5 makes 430nm at 1200rpm and 151kw at 3400rpm...

There's only one big engine in this example, the other is simply a waste of 4 cylinders and 2 liters.

I also know which one would tow better, work harder, be more reliable and blow unsuspecting P platers away at a set of lights

A 1970 Windsor 351 ( which I have owned) has similar specs (515nm/223kw), Nissan hasn't advanced much past this in the last 40 odd years
4.5l isn't a BIG V8 in anyone's standards But it is a Diesel and these are built to work hard and have a Long life, Petrol V8's Not so much regardless of how BIG they are.
As for "Blowing away unsuspecting P platers at the lights" Well I grew out of that Phase decades ago

Originally Posted by trout1105

A 1970 Windsor 351 ( which I have owned) has similar specs (515nm/223kw), Nissan hasn't advanced much past this in the last 40 odd years
4.5l isn't a BIG V8 in anyone's standards But it is a Diesel and these are built to work hard and have a Long life, Petrol V8's Not so much regardless of how BIG they are.
As for "Blowing away unsuspecting P platers at the lights" Well I grew out of that Phase decades ago

Big difference is that the y62 makes the bulk of its torque earlier in rev range unlike most v8s that really need to rev. I also get excellent highway economy and considering my vehicle weight is over 3 ton 11.5-13 is excellent, something else old school v8s can't do. Then there's the advances in metallurgy and engineering that have pretty much closed the gap on diesel longevity.

Work hard? Really, a v8 diesel that only makes the same power as a triton! Biggest difference is that the triton will have 100% more reliabilty than the Toyota over its life span...... and you paid 30k more for this privilege

As for beating p platers off the line, thank God my heart still races for a few seconds. Young enough to enjoy the "heart race with adrenaline" but old enough to know when to hit the breaks.

Originally Posted by trout1105

A 1970 Windsor 351 ( which I have owned) has similar specs (515nm/223kw), Nissan hasn't advanced much past this in the last 40 odd years
4.5l isn't a BIG V8 in anyone's standards But it is a Diesel and these are built to work hard and have a Long life, Petrol V8's Not so much regardless of how BIG they are.
As for "Blowing away unsuspecting P platers at the lights" Well I grew out of that Phase decades ago

I had an XW Fairmont wagon with a 302 W and C4............. just beautiful and reeasonably frugal on the highway. Should never have sold it.

The 350 in my POS has done close to 700,000 now, on lpg, and had already been reco'ed at least once before being imported and lpg fitted.

i.e. has done well over 600,000 on lpg.

Maybe it wouldn't have done this on petrol, dunno.

DL

Originally Posted by 1nando

unlike most v8s that really need to rev

ummmm.......

Originally Posted by trout1105

I take it that ALL of the detractors of the tojo 4.5 V8 actually personally

own one or have owned one to be able to "Qualify" their comments

Spend a lot of time in them. And very few other users of them like them.

As they are used “for purpose” it’s amazing how often they fail too... Starters are nightmares....
And fuel systems require regular upkeep.

It’s the body, steering, suspension and the rest of the driveline that’s the worst component though. Something is always being replaced every 1-2 weeks.

Originally Posted by Eevo

ummmm.......

To make decent torque. Y62 makes 90% of its power at 1600rpm, that's excellent for a NA petrol v8. Sorry I did not clarify clearly