Thread: Australians turn their backs on Holden

With the whole car industry in decline sales wise in Aus, Holden yet again lead the way and have set a new record with yet another all time low sales in November - must be hard to keep being this bad. That’s now 6 times this year they’ve managed to break this record. Their only real seller - the Colorado, is down over 15% from the same time last year. Any takers on when it sinks completely? Does it have another year to fester before the whole thing is given up as a bad idea?

So i wonder what they are going to race?Can't use Commodores for much longer i suppose.

Should have killed the Commodore name off couple of years ago and stopped trying to sell cars people don't want.

The only vehicle that is keeping Ford going is the Ranger,it is a massive % of their total sales in Aus.

So looks like the low lives have already moved on from hot wiring Dunny Dores.

They are getting smarter,using devices to get hold of vehicles without having to have the keys.

This will be the norm soon,late model car keys/fobs will have to be kept in a metal pouch,when not in the vehicle.

Yep, Commodore is on borrowed time - Chev just killed off the same vehicle in the US - not sure what they call it there but couldn’t sell them either. They stopped shipping Commodores to Aus 2 years ago and halted production of the RH drive version as Holden were (and still are) overstocked with them.

Not sure what they’ll clad the race cars in now - to be honest, I think dual cab utes would be more suitable - Ranger v Colorado - far more popular than sedans these days. Ditch the Ute racing, bring them to the main game.

Originally Posted by Homestar

Yep, Commodore is on borrowed time - Chev just killed off the same vehicle in the US - not sure what they call it there but couldn’t sell them either. They stopped shipping Commodores to Aus 2 years ago and halted production of the RH drive version as Holden were (and still are) overstocked with them.

Not sure what they’ll clad the race cars in now - to be honest, I think dual cab utes would be more suitable - Ranger v Colorado - far more popular than sedans these days. Ditch the Ute racing, bring them to the main game.

Why don't we go back to the way it used to be....
Oh look, there's a car for sale, it's made by a particular manufacturer.....
Let's race!!!!
Current "racing" is bull****!

Originally Posted by Pickles2

I agree with you, People waffle, "rave on" about racing stuff ya can buy from the showroom, then they don't like that either,....I actually thought the diesel utes were ok, but for sure they would've been better with a few more out there,...we'll see what they're like with petrol V8s in 'em?
Pickles.

Really? Personally I loved a Nissan GTR R32 - a brilliant car. Neither Holden nor Ford could beat it, despite changing the rules multiple times to stop it. So they banned it.. And look where it got them!

They still make the mighty GTR...

Originally Posted by grey_ghost

Really? Personally I loved a Nissan GTR R32 - a brilliant car. Neither Holden nor Ford could beat it, despite changing the rules multiple times to stop it. So they banned it.. And look where it got them!

They still make the mighty GTR...

"Brilliant/mighty" car?....Definitely,...but definitely not for its class in Aussie motorsport at the time.
That car, in its day, was UNBEATABLE. We "nobbled" it as much as we could!!!...and it was still unbeatable, and the fans didn't like it.
In addition, that car, believe it or not, had very little development. In fact, it was so good, that no-one wanted to race against it,..I remember a race at Sandown where there were only NINE cars on the grid!
Whilst Gibson's GTSRs were the fastest in the world, if they could've been the subject of further development, they would wipe the floor with any current supercar,.....GTSR=VERY complex, and very fast machine, some stuff built into them wouldn't be out of place in F1! Traction control, AWD, & all sorts of electronic "aids" unseen in Aussie tin tops,...not even now!...Like I said, it'd be capable of beating any current vehicle in Supercars.
I admired the technology behind them, but I'm old,....I just like my V8s,....Group A, Group C, V8 Supercars etc etc, just me, I love my V8s, and so do a lot of Aussies,....that's why the 888 Red Bull turbo 6 was discontinued,.....it was going to be just as fast, maybe faster than a V8, but according to several surveys, it was never gonna cut it with the fans.
So, yep,`I do LOVE my V8s, in whatever form they are raced in Aussie, & yes I do realize that my sentiments are not shared by many on this forum.
How will Holden be represented in the future?,...Wouldn't have a clue,....some keep mentioning Camaro (to go against the Mustang),...can't see that either, the Camaro is VERY limited sales in Aussie, & by HSV, NOT Holden, so IMHO I can't see any commercial value at all for Holden to put their racing name on that in Aussie.
How will Holden be represented in Supercars after 2021?...wouldn't have a clue,....in fact at this time I have no idea what will comprise Supercars. 2L touring cars are gaining traction, ....but not for me!!.....but like I said, I'm OLD!
Of course, all IMHO, Pickles.

Originally Posted by Pickles2

"Brilliant/mighty" car?....Definitely,...but definitely not for its class in Aussie motorsport at the time.
That car, in its day, was UNBEATABLE. We "nobbled" it as much as we could!!!...and it was still unbeatable, and the fans didn't like it.
In addition, that car, believe it or not, had very little development. In fact, it was so good, that no-one wanted to race against it,..I remember a race at Sandown where there were only NINE cars on the grid!
Whilst Gibson's GTSRs were the fastest in the world, if they could've been the subject of further development, they would wipe the floor with any current supercar,.....GTSR=VERY complex, and very fast machine, some stuff built into them wouldn't be out of place in F1! Traction control, AWD, & all sorts of electronic "aids" unseen in Aussie tin tops,...not even now!...Like I said, it'd be capable of beating any current vehicle in Supercars.
I admired the technology behind them, but I'm old,....I just like my V8s,....Group A, Group C, V8 Supercars etc etc, just me, I love my V8s, and so do a lot of Aussies,....that's why the 888 Red Bull turbo 6 was discontinued,.....it was going to be just as fast, maybe faster than a V8, but according to several surveys, it was never gonna cut it with the fans.
So, yep,`I do LOVE my V8s, in whatever form they are raced in Aussie, & yes I do realize that my sentiments are not shared by many on this forum.
How will Holden be represented in the future?,...Wouldn't have a clue,....some keep mentioning Camaro (to go against the Mustang),...can't see that either, the Camaro is VERY limited sales in Aussie, & by HSV, NOT Holden, so IMHO I can't see any commercial value at all for Holden to put their racing name on that in Aussie.
How will Holden be represented in Supercars after 2021?...wouldn't have a clue,....in fact at this time I have no idea what will comprise Supercars. 2L touring cars are gaining traction, ....but not for me!!.....but like I said, I'm OLD!
Of course, all IMHO, Pickles.

2 litres! Yuck! I remember that sign someone had at the top of the Mountain some years back “Only Milk and Juice comes in 2 litres,” 😆

While I would be ok with a fast turboed decent capacity 6, you can’t beat the sound of a V8 and I’m probably a bit old School here as well so would like too see the bent 8 continue, but no idea what shell they’ll stick on the ‘Holdens’ in coming years - Equinox? 😆😆😆

I'm definitely showing my age here - "win on Sunday, sell on Monday" and "run what ya brung"... In another life I did some club level motor sport - drive to the track, check the tyre pressures, tape up the head lights, put on a helmet, put a number on the door, and then go for it.... Only problem was - I never went 10/10th's because I had to drive it home!