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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
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    Analysis: Australia's auto industry isn't dead — in fact, parts of it are thriving
    Holden's demise doesn't signal the death of Australia's automotive industry - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

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    It will be interesting to see what happens to the V8 Supercars in the next 12 to 18 months.

    They may go as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    It will be interesting to see what happens to the V8 Supercars in the next 12 to 18 months.

    They may go as well.
    We could adopt the BTCC class (NGTC), or go Formula Mustang.
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    Quote Originally Posted by V8Ian View Post
    We could adopt the BTCC class (NGTC), or go Formula Mustang.
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    V8supercars have no relationship to Holdens or Fords sold to the public.
    I cannot believe how deluded the fans are that go to Bathurst.
    Lets see Nissans Volvo’s and Holdens do not come in RWD and the Mustangs look nothing like real Mustangs.
    All have space frames engines and transmissions that cost a kings ransom.

    All are levelled to provide a spectacle .
    BTW there is a rumour from John Cadogan that no teams are viable and are secretly subsidised by the Federal government.
    I cannot see much wrong with that off course considering the billions spent on football stadiums.
    Give the proletariat cake.

    But the cars could be anything. how about Kias or maybe MGs. Or maybe anyone rich enough or stupid enough to burn millions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PhilipA View Post
    V8supercars have no relationship to Holdens or Fords sold to the public.
    I cannot believe how deluded the fans are that go to Bathurst.
    Lets see Nissans Volvo’s and Holdens do not come in RWD and the Mustangs look nothing like real Mustangs.
    All have space frames engines and transmissions that cost a kings ransom.

    All are levelled to provide a spectacle .
    BTW there is a rumour from John Cadogan that no teams are viable and are secretly subsidised by the Federal government.
    I cannot see much wrong with that off course considering the billions spent on football stadiums.
    Give the proletariat cake.

    But the cars could be anything. how about Kias or maybe MGs. Or maybe anyone rich enough or stupid enough to burn millions.

    Regards PhilipA
    Tin top racing for many years has been about "Holden V Ford",..the "Red" v the "Blue", the fans don't care about "not what you can buy" etc, there haven't been Aussie cars that could've raced in something close to road trim, on equal terms, for many years. Johnson raced a Sierra very successfully, fans still talk about his Sierras, fastest in the World they were, didn't worry the fans ya couldn't buy the car in Aussie, it was still "Holden V Ford", "The Blue Team" V "The Red Team".
    I'm not a fan of Cadogan, & whilst I'm a big fan of Supercars, I really don't know how some teams survive, the cost of running a team is MASSIVE, for sure I wouldn't be putting any dollars of mine in, even if I had any!
    So, for years, whatever the car, whatever the "configuration", it's been "Holden V Ford", that's what the fans wanted, that's what they got, in whatever form. But they can't have that any more.
    So, what cars will run in Supercars next year, apart from Mustang?.....I don't know,....Ryan Walkinshaw has said He won't be racing a Commodore next year. Also heard that Audi, Mercedes etc, do not wish to run against Ford!!
    Of course I'm aware that many on this Forum think Supercars is rubbish. Not a problem, whatever "floats ya boat" I suppose.
    The TV Deal, FTA & Foxtel, is also up for renewal/renegotiation, so lots of challenges for Supercars, that's for sure.
    Will I miss not seeing a "Holden" of whatever configuration running?.....Absolutely I will.
    All IMHO, Pickles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pickles2 View Post
    Tin top racing for many years has been about "Holden V Ford",..the "Red" v the "Blue".
    Totally correct there, before Nissan, Volvo and Mercedes became involved, Chrysler had applied to join the V8s with their 300c and bring a third brand in but was told NO - it is not a Holden or a Ford and thats all the competition will accept so no 300C also racing against Ford and Holden.
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    I think it has been nostalgia for many years just like the Poms with their Lancaster fly overs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pickles2 View Post
    Tin top racing for many years has been about "Holden V Ford",..the "Red" v the "Blue", the fans don't care about "not what you can buy" etc, there haven't been Aussie cars that could've raced in something close to road trim, on equal terms, for many years. Johnson raced a Sierra very successfully, fans still talk about his Sierras, fastest in the World they were, didn't worry the fans ya couldn't buy the car in Aussie, it was still "Holden V Ford", "The Blue Team" V "The Red Team".
    I'm not a fan of Cadogan, & whilst I'm a big fan of Supercars, I really don't know how some teams survive, the cost of running a team is MASSIVE, for sure I wouldn't be putting any dollars of mine in, even if I had any!
    So, for years, whatever the car, whatever the "configuration", it's been "Holden V Ford", that's what the fans wanted, that's what they got, in whatever form. But they can't have that any more.
    So, what cars will run in Supercars next year, apart from Mustang?.....I don't know,....Ryan Walkinshaw has said He won't be racing a Commodore next year. Also heard that Audi, Mercedes etc, do not wish to run against Ford!!
    Of course I'm aware that many on this Forum think Supercars is rubbish. Not a problem, whatever "floats ya boat" I suppose.
    The TV Deal, FTA & Foxtel, is also up for renewal/renegotiation, so lots of challenges for Supercars, that's for sure.
    Will I miss not seeing a "Holden" of whatever configuration running?.....Absolutely I will.
    All IMHO, Pickles.
    Exactly.

    Fans are not deluded at all,its a red versus blue,as it has been since the late 60's.They know its now not what is in the showrooms.HAs been like this for over 20yrs.

    It is amazing some think they are.

    They had other brands for quite a few years,and that didn't work,in fact this is the first year its back to Red and Blue for quite a few years.

    Without being pessimistic,i think its all over,and will be a real shame not to have the series,and Bathurst as we know it now.

    I also think many of the younger generation have no interest in the rivalry and the series in general,which doesn't help.

    Other categories have come and gone,over the years,but none have had the following of the Supercars in their current form.

    I hope i am wrong,we will have to wait and see.

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