Thread: Corona Virus

Originally Posted by incisor

just to make everyone aware of what the moderation team now have to deal with..

please be aware that in this age social media being held to account for what is published on their site



you have been advised / warned

this what will happen from here on in sadly due to the 3 strikes system now being employed by the likes of google and yahoo

sad but true

if you are going to post it on this site please take the time to check it is credible

thank you

Problem can be in.... discerning exactly 'What?' is real and/or Disinformation. a.k.a. "Censorship" by the Powers That Be.


Doctor claims Ivermectin triple therapy is 'amazingly effective' in treating COVID-19

Run these past your own GP, ask him/her/undecided/not defined, "How much do they know about it" ?

- I'd be surprised if they've even heard about it.... from nearly a year ago.

https://www.nasdaq.com/press-release...ralian-gps-for

Originally Posted by Tote

So, to all the (mostly interstate ) commentators what would you do? A hint here - magically swapping the government just puts another bunch of numpties in charge who would do exactly the same things to control the outbreak.

Its pretty easy to throw rocks at the NSW govt but I haven't seen any suggestions that might work.

It's interesting to compare the Victorian "success" of the short sharp lockdown that's still going a couple of weeks later with 20 cases a day. How long until that is 50 - 100 - 300 cases a day?

The NSW govt is pursuing the only way that is viable to resolve the situation - vaccinating as many people as possible and waiting until those numbers reach a level that suppresses hospitalisations is probably the only way way out. It's worth mentioning that the case numbers are a very long way from "out of control" which would be represented by an exponential rate of infection growth. By the way on the 5th of August last year Victoria had 725 cases......

It's not going to be a quick and easy way out, maybe we can get enough people vaccinated so that NSW can operate in the same way that the US and the UK do today, it will be interesting to see how the other states go with that concept, my bet is that state borders will be closed longer than international borders at this rate.

Regards,
Tote

Lockdown #5 worked to suppress Delta so was a success.

Lockdown #6 is a different outbreak, we've been in lockdown for less than a week and it's unlikely to get much bigger [Edit: touch wood.]

#5 was created by people from NSW - the removalists.

#6 - the current outbreak - appears to also have been triggered by a failure in NSW hotel quarantine.

So, we're in lockdown because NSW keeps seeding outbreaks interstate, not because short, sharp lockdowns don't work - they do, and given how infectious Delta is it's the only option. As NSW is discovering, with a less than two day infectious period and an R0 of 8, you can't track and trace Delta - it's too fast. You have to stop everyone moving around for a fortnight so it stops transmitting and to give you time to identify the infected.

PS, since Covid increases exponentially NSW is about 2 days away from 700+ cases per day ...

Originally Posted by Tote

So, to all the (mostly interstate ) commentators what would you do? A hint here - magically swapping the government just puts another bunch of numpties in charge who would do exactly the same things to control the outbreak.

Its pretty easy to throw rocks at the NSW govt but I haven't seen any suggestions that might work.

It's interesting to compare the Victorian "success" of the short sharp lockdown that's still going a couple of weeks later with 20 cases a day. How long until that is 50 - 100 - 300 cases a day?

The NSW govt is pursuing the only way that is viable to resolve the situation - vaccinating as many people as possible and waiting until those numbers reach a level that suppresses hospitalisations is probably the only way way out. It's worth mentioning that the case numbers are a very long way from "out of control" which would be represented by an exponential rate of infection growth. By the way on the 5th of August last year Victoria had 725 cases......

It's not going to be a quick and easy way out, maybe we can get enough people vaccinated so that NSW can operate in the same way that the US and the UK do today, it will be interesting to see how the other states go with that concept, my bet is that state borders will be closed longer than international borders at this rate.

Regards,
Tote

Tote, Qld has had 5 lockdowns, short, sharp, & successful. The latest the delta variant. You seem to be in denial , or ignore that.

The people of Byron Bay may have something to say about the Sydney " lockdown ".

‘It'll rip through like wildfire': Byron Bay seethes after Sydney man sparks lockdown (msn.com)

Originally Posted by Arapiles

Lockdown #5 worked to suppress Delta so was a success.

Lockdown #6 is a different outbreak, we've been in lockdown for less than a week and it's unlikely to get much bigger [Edit: touch wood.]

#5 was created by people from NSW - the removalists.

#6 - the current outbreak - appears to also have been triggered by a failure in NSW hotel quarantine.

So, we're in lockdown because NSW keeps seeding outbreaks interstate, not because short, sharp lockdowns don't work - they do, and given how infectious Delta is it's the only option. As NSW is discovering, with a less than two day infectious period and an R0 of 8, you can't track and trace Delta - it's too fast. You have to stop everyone moving around for a fortnight so it stops transmitting and to give you time to identify the infected.

PS, since Covid increases exponentially NSW is about 2 days away from 700+ cases per day ...

Qld has had 5 lock downs, the latest with delta, all successful. All short sharp, quick, the difference being the way the population complied with instructions. I believe the virus is more dangerous in densly populated areas, and any delay in locking down completely lets delta run away.The truth is they let the outbreak in Sydney fester for too long, and the only thing to do now is the ring of steel, to keep the population controlled in one area, no one out, no one in. It's a no brainer, and I'm willing to back any other entity doing just that.

Originally Posted by Tote

Yep, the lockdown in Orange/ Blayney was very successful but it doesn't have the same demographics as Sydney. I think Tamworth and Armidale will be OK as well. Not so sure about Newcastle and Byron/Lismore though.....

Regards,
Tote

QLD showed how it is done 5 times. The only thing left for NSW , now that they have let it get out of control, is a ring of steel. As for another group in charge, you are kidding yourself if you think they would not approach it differently.

Originally Posted by bob10

I believe the virus is more dangerous in densly populated areas,

It also seems more dangerous in a dense population.

Its pretty easy to throw rocks at the NSW govt but I haven't seen any suggestions that might work.

The Hard and Fast lockdowns initiated at the start of an outbreak by pretty much every other State except NSW have prooved to be very effective in combatting the spread of this virus and the NSW government is well aware that this is the case and yet they continue to blithly ignore this Fact.

The purely political decisions made in response to this latest outbreak by the NSW government instead of listening to the science and looking at the favorable outcomes in the other States by hard and fast lockdowns isnt working at all.

The mediocre NSW government responses to this outbreak is only prolonging the hardships and pain of the people in NSW AND in turn are "Spawning" new outbreaks in the other States at the same time.

By the time the NSW government Finally bites the bullet and gets serious about lockdowns the population will have suffered weeks if not months of pain needlessly in the meantime.

YES vaccination IS the way out of this But in the meantime the spread of this killer Has to be controlled properly using science NOT politics