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I think communistic is the wrong term. Thats a political term, but you're not describing a political system.
An industrial production system with worker input is just good management. The workers know best how the system really operates at their level.
This is why many companies prefer to promote from within their own ranks, rather than bringing in outsiders who may lack intimate knowledge of the real situation.
Interesting take on Sweden Covid 19 response in link below.
"More than half of Swedish households are single-person, making social distancing easier to carry out."
Back to the fact that over 50% of Swedes live in single person households - the best available studies indicate that extended contact within a household (or institution or bar) are a much bigger factor than outside crowd events .
Sweden is already way ahead of the rest of the Europe in telework: "More people work from home than anywhere else in Europe, and everyone has access to fast Internet, which helps large chunks of the workforce stay productive away from the office."
Swedes actually follow the travel guidelines voluntarily: "Trips...to Gotland -- a popular vacation destination -- dropped by 96% over the Easter weekend...And online service Citymapper’s statistics indicate an almost 75% drop in mobility in the capital."
and many more..
Sweden is not an example of "no social distancing" it's an example of a country that follows rules without laws and is already pretty socially distant. It is not losing front line medical workers, either, because it has PPE.
They seem much more well placed to follow guidlines than my
own home country..... so societal pressures or conditions make a difference.
https://mobile.twitter.com/DirkSchwe...05436399886336
Despite the above, Swden's rate of infection and deaths both compare unfavourably with most of the other Scandinavian countries.
Yes absolutely ,but economic cost less apparently(rightly or wrongly related to deaths etc, not something to debate in a general forum setting and in these economic difficult times there is a massive increase in stress whether worry or finanical leading to a increase in stess related conditions such as hear attacks, strokes, mental health problems even sucides and increased health care costsband so on over a long time to come....
Also wait at least one year to see whether total deaths under the area of the curves from different counteries lockdown styles comes out closer than you think. Area under curve will have a certain number of cases/deaths not sayings its right or wrong with different approaches but from a non emotional view point it will be interesting,
I compare their approach of societal obedience using education and logic verus my own native country approach of not using their brains etc as illustrated below and so many times at the medical centre where I work, some days its beyound belief how stuipid humans are and invoking their self destructive genes by their actions.
Covid 19 coronavirus: BurgerFuel brings in crowd controllers for all sites after mobs seen waiting for orders - NZ Herald
The herd immunity approach relies on about 70% of the population getting the virus and getting over it. There's just one problem with that approach with this coronavirus - no-one actually knows what it's capable of.
While the original focus was on the problems it causes with lungs, it's also now known to cause:
- stroke (via massive amounts of blood clots)
- heart attack (by directly attacking heart muscle)
- kidney problems (by directly attacking kidney cells)
- gastrointestinal issues
- skin problems
- may cause severe inflammatory disease in children
What if it also causes long term issues, like HIV or syphillis do, and all we're seeing at present is its latent phase? If that were the case then attaining herd immunity by getting infected - rather than by vaccination - would not be a good idea.
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Originally Posted by ramblingboy42
I think that "just in time" and "kaizen" (continuous improvement) are being confused or conflated.
Blow up half the MCG when it’s full. That’s around 50kQuote:
Originally Posted by 4bee
Or About 3x the number of allied deaths on the Burma Railway. (Total deaths was over 100k)
For comparison 521 Australian soldiers died in Vietnam, USA deaths were 58,220.
Although compared to WW2
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Although most wouldn’t envision even the common problems in society.
On average 8.3 people commit suicide daily on Australia.
That’s 3000+ annually
And in Australia between 1,500-3,000 people die from Influenza each year.
Heart disease etc take ~17k in AU annually
Here’s the top 10
3303.0 - Causes of Death, Australia, 2018
More Americans (about 63,000) have now died of C-19 than in the Vietnam War.
Similar figure to last years Flu season in the USA so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by DiscoMick
You're more than correct. That links splits "Heart" into several classifications, obviously the Winner is the most lethal - 'Heart Attack' but don't forget Cardiac Arrythmias (2,400) or Hypertension-related (2,100) and straight out 'Heart Failure (9,000).Quote:
Originally Posted by Tombie
Significantly, one of the few CoD to retain it's ranking is Diabetes, regarded by many as one of the (nutritional/physiological) foundations of Heart Disease and Dementia (#2 on the list)
Another foundation stone is... state of mind, a.k.a. emotional health.
- 'Chronic Stress' and this has already been touched on above. Think bankrupt and shut down Business, loss of current jobs, personal bankruptcies and loss of house..., shrinkage of industries and services... Fewer future jobs.
In short, money and self-image problems. Sounds just like the disintergration of Soviet Union... recession / pensions not paid, - and heart attacks / disease skyrocketed. So did suicide. One can only wonder what our numbers are going to be like over the next 10 years. Already 6 males per DAY top themselves - because the pain of the present is not balanced by anything to look forward to. A suicide causes immense pain & Family damage to at least a dozen people, several will be 'damaged' for the rest of their life.
This lockdown and resulting fiscal self-harm is going to reverberate for quite a few years.