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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Talking about child deaths, its interesting to visit old graveyards and see how many children each couple had and how many died young, usually from diseases or accidents. My father was one of 8 and that was pretty typical. We underestimate how many fatal diseases are now under control.

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Scarlet Fever apparently was quite common but I wasn't aware it could cause so much strife to so much of the body until Mr/Mrs/MS Google told me.

It could be re-emerging & on the way back according to this article.

Got a sore throat? It may be Scarlet Fever not Covid-19.


Scarlet fever, scourge of the 19th century, is coming back | The Independent

Yes Mick, there were 7 kids on this property but we have met them all, but I say again but, there is a mysterious hollow under our Kitchen floor like a small hole was dug & filled in & eventually caved in as something beneath wasted away. I needed to cut an access hole years ago & have pondered this. I didn't like to disturb it in case it was something I didnt wish to see if you get my drift. If it was something it would have been aprx 70 years ago.

I doubt whether a small dog was interred there.

Who knows, these days we recognise Post Natal Depression as a serious matter & as the Mother died on a trip to to Corwall & is interred there, did she take her own life, as apparently she did not wish to return to OZ & there was some talk that she died on a train but was she pushed or did she jump?

Only one direct survivor of the family is left & she is getting on a bit to even contemplate asking. So I wouldn't.

I guess we will never know.

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Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

yes you're right Bob.

it's actually a very communistic type system in it's best operating form , where traditional company executives must listen to the lowest paid employee's suggestion and if voted on by the working group in which the employee is part of , must be adopted.....if not, the system fails.

in fact Harley-Davidson was saved from death in the early 90's , and it was suggestions from the employees , who knew the companies operations and problems , that saved it.

They did , in fact , employ value added management alongside just in time production , which actually saved the brand. The turn around was quite rapid and they still use the system today.

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The importance of a National Sovereignty Strategy, by Ex General Jim Molan.



The importance of a National Sovereignty Strategy – Jim Molan - CONTACT magazine

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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

It also interferes with the diabetes ap, which could be life-threatening.

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Admittedly, any problems are being worked through, we must understand this is unprecedented , and we are in unknown waters. Those with objections due to privacy problems need to take the government on trust. [ I know.] This app is vital to our lifting of restrictions, bit of an Hobsons choice.

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Diabetes Australia
on Wednesday




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Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Talking about child deaths, its interesting to visit old graveyards and see how many children each couple had and how many died young, usually from diseases or accidents. My father was one of 8 and that was pretty typical. We underestimate how many fatal diseases are now under control.

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A few years ago I visited the village (no longer existing) where my father was in his early primary school years (1908-11). About the only thing remaining there is the cemetery. From memory there were 33 graves - with only two adults. (All graves were marked, as the cemetery had been moved to make way for a mine)

Fortunately we don't see a lot of childhood deaths today.
This must be one of the most tragic headstone there is.
That was what it was like in the time before vaccines.


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I am so over that word. Unprecedented.

There is certainly precedent. The Black Plague (believed to have also started in East Asia), the Spanish Flu, the Hong Kong Flu estimated to have killed 100,000 in the US and 1 million globally. The only major difference I see is that we are more globally connected, (and I don't just mean the internet) hence the speed at which this has reached ..... everywhere. People fly (or they did) for pleasure and you can be on the otherside of the world in less than a day. There is also the speed at which everything is reported, during the Hong Kong Flu (1968) reporting was probably a number of days behind, everything was paper based, and probably in triplicate using carbon paper. Put a graph in a few places on the net today and 5 million have seen it and shared it in a few minutes.

It is getting like one of those words that, when you say it over and over, it just doesn't sound right anymore.

Further to my previous post - my father's family only lost one out of seven, in 1910, I think. He died in his mother's arms in a borrowed sulky on the way to Orange, to see the nearest doctor. He was buried in Orange. That was Diphtheria.

Interestingly, a vaccine existed in Australia for it then, but it probably was not available in a rural village, even if they had heard of it and could afford it. Routing vaccination for anything other than smallpox did not happen in this country until after WW2.

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Originally Posted by vnx205

Fortunately we don't see a lot of childhood deaths today.
This must be one of the most tragic headstone there is.
That was what it was like in the time before vaccines.


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That is certainly a tragic story VN. I guess one had to be there to really grab the hopelessness of all those deaths within such a short span of days. ie. the hysterical wailing of female relatives, the Mother, the whole sadness blanket that would have cloaked everything etc & to get to Lydia's age of about 22-ish & see your whole family struck down.

Truly sad.[bigsad] I sort of remember Diphtheria was on the wane when I was a little kid but certainly was aware of the Northfield Infectious Diseases Hospital on Hampstead Road. Parts of it are still there & now used for Rehabilitation. The one that worried my Parents was Poliomyelitis & it was a sort of a Lockdown situation as we have today but not as strict ie. No Flicks or other sort of Crowds, but life went on, well for us it did, because we weren't affected by it. Of course in later years we then saw kids in leg irons, not the convict type ones but surgical irons & somehow the kids appearance looked quite different as they learnt to cope with it all.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/may/03/donald-trump-reopen-us-economy-lethal-robert-reich?utm_term=RWRpdG9yaWFsX0d1YXJkaWFuVG9kYXlVS19 XZWVrZW5kLTIwMDUwMw%3D%3D&utm_source=esp&utm_mediu m=Email&CMP=GTUK_email&utm_campaign=GuardianTodayU K


Trump must be insane or is hoping his insanity is going to win him the Presdidency.

Deffo a few screws loose/undone.

Don't rely too much on car racing teams inventing cheap (?) ventilators, or vacuum-cleaners working backwards...[bigwhistle]
- this little ripper - designed to be used before 'serious' intubation ventilation is indicated.. would ease the burden of buying up expen$ive CPAP / BiPAP machines. Plans and software to be Open Source.

This could be the Israeli answer to the coronavirus ventilator shortage - Israel News - Haaretz.com