Thread: Corona Virus

Originally Posted by bob10

Whoever thinks it's weird to catch flies has never owned a chook pen.

Let the chooks catch their own flies.

Originally Posted by V8Ian

Let the chooks catch their own flies.

Doesn't work like that. I use fly traps to keep them down, otherwise you risk the numbers being over bearing in the heat of summer. Also keeps the neighbours happy. Gives them something less to complain about.

Originally Posted by 4bee

You wanna catch flies with Manuka? Weird.

You may be close to the mark, Des. There are more varieties of the leptospermum tree in Australia than NZ, and the variety exists in the swampy land behind our place. Leptospermum ssp. . Beekeepers around here took part in a survey some time back, and were told their honey was of the manuka variety. I didn't bother, manuka or not, not really interested. The only sticking point is there is a copyright fight over whether Aus. honey can be marketed as Manuka. It is said the Aus. Manuka is the strongest bacterial honey in the World, ATM they can not market it as Manuka. EDIT, honey from that species can be traced back to 1822, in AUS..

The Australian Manuka Honey Association (AMHA) (manukaaustralia.org.au)

Originally Posted by cjc_td5

For those that compare the blood clotting rates of the AZ vaccine vs the pill or DVT, the clotting episodes from the AZ vaccine are an immune response related clot typically in the brain or abdomen, and have up to a 40% mortality rate. Regular clots related to DVT etc are easier to treat and have a much much lower mortality rate.

As any doctor will tell you, a rare side effect is fine until it is sitting in the chair opposite you. Then it has a 100% chance of occurance in that person.

Succinct summary.... And I have no desire to be DNA- damaged/altered/"enhanced".
not only but also, sooner or later Insurance Industry is going to poke it's nose above the parapet... already there are rumblings of doubt IF they'll pay out on a damaged person who voluntarily takes an Experimental Substance. In the USA, their EUA annointing looks like it may not cut the mustard with Bean Counters. Seriously, might be an idea for sleeping well, to check our Health Funds if they'll support us for vaccine injury.


Last reference was from JAMA. - Journal of American Medical Association.

Previous was from a DUTCH government body, roughly equivalent to the US "CDC" and until further notice, I'd accept they have less reason to BS than the CDC (Check CDC funding sources.... )

Even the most capable epidemiologists have been ignored ...
Is the infection fatality rate for COVID-19 worse than that for influenza? | The BMJ

For example, this from another BMJ article:-

"...A recent peer-reviewed paper by one of the world’s most cited and respected scientist, Professor John Ioannidis of Stanford University, quotes an infection fatality rate (IFR) for Covid of 0.00-0.57% (0.05% for under 70s), far lower than originally feared and no different to severe flu [3]. This paper is published on WHO’s own Bulletin but ignored by UK mainstream media...."

Here's the source of the above. Covid-19: Science, Conflicts and the Elephant in the Room | The BMJ

But as always, Follow the Money is useful advice.... The Decimal Point that Blew Up the World – AIER

Originally Posted by bob10

You may be close to the mark, Des. There are more varieties of the leptospermum tree in Australia than NZ, and the variety exists in the swampy land behind our place. Leptospermum ssp. . Beekeepers around here took part in a survey some time back, and were told their honey was of the manuka variety. I didn't bother, manuka or not, not really interested. The only sticking point is there is a copyright fight over whether Aus. honey can be marketed as Manuka. It is said the Aus. Manuka is the strongest bacterial honey in the World, ATM they can not market it as Manuka. EDIT, honey from that species can be traced back to 1822, in AUS..

The Australian Manuka Honey Association (AMHA) (manukaaustralia.org.au)

Kinda amusing how Chinese gooseberries became Kiwi fruit all over the world.

DL

Originally Posted by superquag

Succinct summary.... And I have no desire to be DNA- damaged/altered/"enhanced".
not only but also, sooner or later Insurance Industry is going to poke it's nose above the parapet... already there are rumblings of doubt IF they'll pay out on a damaged person who voluntarily takes an Experimental Substance. In the USA, their EUA annointing looks like it may not cut the mustard with Bean Counters. Seriously, might be an idea for sleeping well, to check our Health Funds if they'll support us for vaccine injury.


Last reference was from JAMA. - Journal of American Medical Association.

Previous was from a DUTCH government body, roughly equivalent to the US "CDC" and until further notice, I'd accept they have less reason to BS than the CDC (Check CDC funding sources.... )

Even the most capable epidemiologists have been ignored ...
Is the infection fatality rate for COVID-19 worse than that for influenza? | The BMJ

For example, this from another BMJ article:-

"...A recent peer-reviewed paper by one of the world’s most cited and respected scientist, Professor John Ioannidis of Stanford University, quotes an infection fatality rate (IFR) for Covid of 0.00-0.57% (0.05% for under 70s), far lower than originally feared and no different to severe flu [3]. This paper is published on WHO’s own Bulletin but ignored by UK mainstream media...."

Here's the source of the above. Covid-19: Science, Conflicts and the Elephant in the Room | The BMJ

But as always, Follow the Money is useful advice.... The Decimal Point that Blew Up the World – AIER

Mate you are still talking about mortality rate and not total mortality. Covid19 has killed many many times more people in the same period that the flu has done in the last few decades. Are you going to accept that or still talk fatality rates for those who contract the virus?

Cheers

Originally Posted by bob10

You may be close to the mark, Des. There are more varieties of the leptospermum tree in Australia than NZ, and the variety exists in the swampy land behind our place. Leptospermum ssp. . Beekeepers around here took part in a survey some time back, and were told their honey was of the manuka variety. I didn't bother, manuka or not, not really interested. The only sticking point is there is a copyright fight over whether Aus. honey can be marketed as Manuka. It is said the Aus. Manuka is the strongest bacterial honey in the World, ATM they can not market it as Manuka. EDIT, honey from that species can be traced back to 1822, in AUS..

The Australian Manuka Honey Association (AMHA) (manukaaustralia.org.au)

While other reports say it is probably a load of crap, well they didn't actually say crap but it was implied.

For years I have believed it's bug killing qualities but have never put it to the test. I also understood that Honey (General Purpose) was good for some things including burns, but again have never put it to the test. Funny that.

You may be close to the mark, Des.

Jezuz don't let you know who, hear that bob, she reckons I'm getting too big for my boots already & increasing any wisdom could be the straw etc etc. back.

Originally Posted by 4bee

While other reports say it is probably a load of crap, well they didn't actually say crap but it was implied.

For years I have believed it's bug killing qualities but have never put it to the test. I also understood that Honey (General Purpose) was good for some things including burns, but again have never put it to the test. Funny that.



Jezuz don't let you know who hear that bob, she reckons I'm getting too big for my boots already & increasing any wisdom could be the straw etc etc.

Don't know what other reports you are talking about, honey has been used as an antibiotic since Ancient Egypt. It was used in WW1 on wounds. Don't sell yourself short. Your time on this planet has made you an elder. with a lifetime of knowledge. And you gained that knowledge before the time of social media, of which I'm sure history will record has scrambled peoples minds, and sensibilities. I'm waxing lyrical, because I've had some Guiness. A wee dram before bed. Or is that whiskey? No matter, never let modern man's insecurities and prejudices diminish your self esteem. Wives , on the other hand are like the slaves who rode with Caesar, thru the streets to the Temple of Jupiter, on the Capitoline hill , to offer sacrifice to the Temple, after coming home triumphant from battle. The slaves would whisper in Caesar's ear "Remember you are mortal " However I recommend you do not treat SWMBO as a slave.

Manuka Honey: Medicinal Uses, Benefits, and Side Effects (webmd.com)