Thread: Corona Virus

Ah, well, Pickles, at least we will be able to refer to it as 'Hibernation' in a month or so!

After years of marriage to someone, who is referred to these days as an 'Health Professional' and who has always reminded me, when I'm crook, that there is always someone worse off then myself (even though at the time, I know this statement couldn't possibly be fact) I am sure that, in this present situation, the adage does ring true.
Chin up!

Here's a summary of the state of restrictions in the USA.
Opening up too early, in the country which already leads the world by far in sufferers and deaths, risks a huge second wave in infections, particularly since they are not testing nearly enough people to know the real situation or trace contacts with people who test positive.
In comparison, we in Australia are doing just great.

More than 41,000 people have died in the US. Why is there talk of easing restrictions?
Coronavirus lockdowns are being protested by Americans. Why does Trump want to ease restrictions? - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

Our NZ Prime Minister has just announced we are staying in Level 4 Lock Down until after midnight Monday 27th when ANZAC day is observed as a public holiday. One more week then to level 3.

Our new revised Levels chart is here if it is of interest.

Noticed while packing the car after shopping this morning that people are wearing rubber gloves whilst shopping and then when finished throwing on the ground in the car park , i suppose if my dog **** on their lawn there would be hell to raise .

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

Here's a summary of the state of restrictions in the USA.
Opening up too early, in the country which already leads the world by far in sufferers and deaths, risks a huge second wave in infections, particularly since they are not testing nearly enough people to know the real situation or trace contacts with people who test positive.
In comparison, we in Australia are doing just great.

More than 41,000 people have died in the US. Why is there talk of easing restrictions?
Coronavirus lockdowns are being protested by Americans. Why does Trump want to ease restrictions? - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)

"Easing restrictions", ANYWHERE (except China according to them?) is a recipe for disaster, IMHO.
But there are those in Victoria screaming for it, people in the USA demanding it, and Mr Trump?........well it will be interesting to see what He ACTUALLY relaxes.
As I've said elsewhere, I can't see how there can be any relaxation of anything anywhere.
Pickles.

Originally Posted by ramblingboy42

ok, lets get rid of some baloney, false news , whatever you want to call it or whatever you really desire to occurr.

My wife is a Senior Workforce Development Manager with Queensland Primary Healthcare Network.

Her job is to educate, advise , manage and plan distribution of both knowledge and hardware to healthcare professionals in Queensland.

I asked her if there were any real (not clickbait etc) breakthroughs in Covid19 vaccination development.

Her answer....NO

Stop getting excited with media releases, they are there so you follow their advertising...get it?

She said if there was anything developing , they....the PHN network would know and would be gearing up for millions of vaccination kits .....and that isn't anywhere near happening at the moment.

Thats interesting. A friend of mine works for Johnson & Johnson medical, he knows whats happening in there. They've been working on a vaccine since January via their Jannsen Vaccines subsiduary. Their vaccine uses the same biological platform as their developmental vaccines for Ebola, Zika and Influenza. Their tests so far have been that positive on non-numan testing, (human testing starts approx Sept) that they are gearing up to start production right now while they simulaneously go through the formal approval procedures as required. They're happy because the base product already meets all of the WHO key attributes for a vaccine and 50,000 people already have tested the base platform with success. Production will be in the Netherlands and in the US via J&J facilites and hopefully outsourced in Europe and in Asia. The reason why they are starting production now is because they are pretty convinced that it works and will be approved and they want the vaccine to drop immediately after approval. Early 2021 is their expected eta for approval and release. In terms of breakthrough, its mainly done.

Originally Posted by Pickles2

"Easing restrictions", ANYWHERE (except China according to them?) is a recipe for disaster, IMHO.
But there are those in Victoria screaming for it, people in the USA demanding it, and Mr Trump?........well it will be interesting to see what He ACTUALLY relaxes.
As I've said elsewhere, I can't see how there can be any relaxation of anything anywhere.
Pickles.

Those calling for a relaxation, particularly OS are either dumb/incapable of seeing the big picture or so self centered and self absorbed they don't give a fig about anyone else, but if they got sick would scream why wasn't something done sooner.

Even economists here are suggesting that we need to maintain the current situation, as a relaxation and then bounce in poistive numbers and deaths would be far more damaging sociologically and therefore economically.

In my view we'll never see a magic vaccine for SARSv2. We haven't managed it in 30 years for Malaria or for SARSv1, why is this any different? What we can hope for are developments in TREATMENT techniques that reduces its severity.

Its here to stay. I would say travel, especially internationally, is going to be hugely changed over the next 4+ years, if not forever..