Thread: Corona Virus

Tassie is up there too..in deaths per head of population😞

..years of neglect of public health systems ultimately costs lives..you can only kick the can so far down the road!

Re the USA..money matters more than lives unfortunately..and like Brazil..the leaders are ruled by the money people....who can look after themselves quite well..and of course there's a level of lunacy thrown in for good measure.

Trump is now taking a prophylactic medication that could kill him...mmmmm

So here's one example of the results of losing international students - CQU making 182 staff redundant and closing three teaching sites.
That's only one of the smaller unis. I see 12,000 jobs are at risk nationally.
Education is our number 4 export industry and these are fellow Aussies losing their jobs.

182 voluntary redundancies as CQUniversity struggles with $116m loss
Staff accept voluntary redundancies as CQUniversity struggles with $116m loss - ABC News

Originally Posted by DiscoMick

So here's one example of the results of losing international students - CQU making 182 staff redundant and closing three teaching sites.
That's only one of the smaller unis. I see 12,000 jobs are at risk nationally.
Education is our number 4 export industry and these are fellow Aussies losing their jobs.

182 voluntary redundancies as CQUniversity struggles with $116m loss
Staff accept voluntary redundancies as CQUniversity struggles with $116m loss - ABC News

I don’t see any mention of international student, I’m sure international students have impacted to some extent but I doubt it 100%.

If it is it shows the business isn’t a solid model.

The arrival also mentions it was a voluntary redundancy program, no mention of forced redundancy...although forced tends to follow on if the business cannot get back on its feet.

Not counting international student, The ratio of students v available jobs in a lot of cases is skewed the wrong way.

You’d also have to question yeppoon and bilo being able to sustain number for an active campus, my guess would be targeted at international.

So far two from two of my kids pulled the pin on uni after six months and 12 months......for varying reason but mostly around cash flow.

Although the oldest went and got a job where the employer is putting him through three years of uni while being paid an income. Wasn’t his intention, although a good outcome as he is an academic.

Originally Posted by JDNSW

Total confirmed cases, total deaths, new cases per day, deaths per day, duration of pandemic without a significant drop in new cases per day, time without an effective national response, number of armed protests against any effective response etc. Probably a few more, but these are some of the obvious ones.

You left out the obvious ones that compare on a per capita basis.

Regardless of whether you think Trump is a dickhead or not, whether they reacted fast enough or not, whether you like US gun culture or not, on a death / capita basis the US's past trajectory and it's current position is little different than most of it's contemporaries in Western Europe.

Does that make them the worst in the world by far?

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Originally Posted by INter674

Trump is now taking a prophylactic medication that could kill him...mmmmm

Wont kill you if taken as prescribed and monitored by doctors - remembering this is not an experimental drug and is already approved for a couple of aliments. The issue is people taking against the rules - eg taking too much, taking with preexisting conditions that preclude its use, lack of monitoring of any side effects.

But trials have so far not found it to be of any benefit.

Garry

It'd be interesting to see how they could actually trial it.

Do they infect a group then try the drug on them?

Do they give a group the drug and see if they can infect them?

Or do we use the military like they're wanting to do here now?

Originally Posted by W&KO

I don’t see any mention of international student, I’m sure international students have impacted to some extent but I doubt it 100%.

If it is it shows the business isn’t a solid model.

The arrival also mentions it was a voluntary redundancy program, no mention of forced redundancy...although forced tends to follow on if the business cannot get back on its feet.

Not counting international student, The ratio of students v available jobs in a lot of cases is skewed the wrong way.

You’d also have to question yeppoon and bilo being able to sustain number for an active campus, my guess would be targeted at international.

So far two from two of my kids pulled the pin on uni after six months and 12 months......for varying reason but mostly around cash flow.

Although the oldest went and got a job where the employer is putting him through three years of uni while being paid an income. Wasn’t his intention, although a good outcome as he is an academic.

Australia had 800,000 international students in 2017, about half of them in universities. Education earned Australia $32b in 2018. By comparison, the barley exports that China has just hit with an 80% tariff are worth just $1.8b. International education is a big deal. University staff are not eligible for JobKeeper. 12,000 jobs are at risk.

International students in Australia | Study in Australia

Originally Posted by W&KO

I don’t see any mention of international student, I’m sure international students have impacted to some extent but I doubt it 100%.

If it is it shows the business isn’t a solid model.

The arrival also mentions it was a voluntary redundancy program, no mention of forced redundancy...although forced tends to follow on if the business cannot get back on its feet.

Not counting international student, The ratio of students v available jobs in a lot of cases is skewed the wrong way.

You’d also have to question yeppoon and bilo being able to sustain number for an active campus, my guess would be targeted at international.

So far two from two of my kids pulled the pin on uni after six months and 12 months......for varying reason but mostly around cash flow.

Although the oldest went and got a job where the employer is putting him through three years of uni while being paid an income. Wasn’t his intention, although a good outcome as he is an academic.

Uni is just too expensive for locals and most of the high cost is a product of uni's being able to rely in the past on international students paying over the top full fees. Pity this business model has collapsed..maybe rather than investing in real estate the uni's could reduce fees to locals and attract them like they used to do.

UTas is a good example of a business model fsr too dependant on one customer whilst at the same time it has invested millions in real estate with a view to building a city-based campus to serve and attract more OS students.

Vice Chancellors/Boards have lost sight of their community obligations and to a large extent they have shafted their staff and in many cases compromised standards to serve this corrupted business model.

I know of highly professional people who have left UTas because of the pandering to OS students who in some cases were able to study/graduate despite not speaking English or who were caught cheating but were allowed to stay enrolled. Staff pay and conditions have also been compromised as more and more money was directed to real estate and upper echelon pay and bonuses.

This sector needs to be investigated and reformed.