Thread: Corona Virus

Originally Posted by Arapiles

I wonder how much of the apparent NSW/Qld aggro stems from the State of Origin? In all seriousness, I identify as Australian, not Victorian.

I see little wrong with this reason;

"Queensland Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk continued to flatly reject calls to let southerners back into her state on Thursday.“We are not going to be lectured to by a state that has the highest amount of [coronavirus] cases in Australia,” she said in Brisbane.NSW reported two more coronavirus infections on Thursday, and has had 49 deaths. Queensland had no new cases, and has had six fatalities." [ two of which came from NSW]

And the border is not closed to essential travel. As for that fine example of sensible thinking;

"However, the Queensland border is still open to trade and for interstate travel on compassionate grounds.Ms Palaszczuk appeared unconcerned by the threat of legal action.“We are reviewing this every month, nothing has changed,” she said.“If she [Pauline Hanson] wants to do that it’s entirely up to her.“By the time any action got to the High Court, I’m quite sure the borders will be open.”"

So, before venting ,people should get some facts. Also, I fully understand your feelings about Australia before Victoria.

Originally Posted by 4bee

As time goes on I reckon this Border crap is going have to be mandated by The Commonwealth Gubmint & not State premiers. Forget all the "differences" ,we do all live in the one country like it or not. Some states appear to focus on Monetary reasons. I read the other day somewhere, that Victoria stands to reap millions of $ in fines assuming that is all legal when the so called laws were passed. It still has to tested in a court of law yet.

I don't give a flying **** if one state's conditions don't suit another let the C of A make the rules. This infighting **** is bloody ridiculous. Let us all "sing from the same hymn book or get aboard the same Tram or train" it doesn't matter at the end of the day FFS. This is all due to Oz being a Federation.

Meantime, we will be self-isolating & spacing as we have been doing for months 'cos that is what we are content with or this Covid **** could just go on forever if every "Free Thinker" believes it wasn't meant for them. Well I have got ****ing news for you. It ****ing was, OK?

Grouchy outburst finished.

I'm afraid that regardless of your thoughts on the subject, we live in a federation. If you think the states ought to be abolished, or want to change the rights of the states vs the Commonwealth, it should take you about half an hour to read and understand the relevant section of the constitution. Could take a bit longer to get the constitution changed though - and the success rate of attempts to do so is not very impressive. (8/45 attempts unless I miscounted)

Originally Posted by JDNSW

I'm afraid that regardless of your thoughts on the subject, we live in a federation. If you think the states ought to be abolished, or want to change the rights of the states vs the Commonwealth, it should take you about half an hour to read and understand the relevant section of the constitution. Could take a bit longer to get the constitution changed though - and the success rate of attempts to do so is not very impressive. (8/45 attempts unless I miscounted)

hence why we're having a revolution and the empire of australia and new zealand will have a new constitution.

Originally Posted by Arapiles

Section 117 was probably the wrong one, the relevant section is section 92 - the issue about section 92 is that the High Court might permit restrictions but they'd need to be proportionate, non-discriminatory and limited in time. If Australia as a whole has few new coronavirus cases I don't think that the WA, Qld and Tas hard borders are really justifiable.

It's also really interesting - astonishing really - how quickly those barriers went up: we really are acting less like a country and more like a customs union.

When you understand that the majority of coronavirus cases in Qld. can be traced to the Ruby Princess, I don't think the closures were quick enough. And surely you realise that trade and essential travel has always been allowed.... Don't you ?

Originally Posted by JDNSW

I'm afraid that regardless of your thoughts on the subject, we live in a federation. If you think the states ought to be abolished, or want to change the rights of the states vs the Commonwealth, it should take you about half an hour to read and understand the relevant section of the constitution. Could take a bit longer to get the constitution changed though - and the success rate of attempts to do so is not very impressive. (8/45 attempts unless I miscounted)

It must have been a rush of blood, the rant does not survive close scrutiny. And besides, trade and essential travel has always been allowed thru the Qld border. Almost Trumpesque, wasn't it ?

Originally Posted by 101RRS

Can I ask what the point is saying Gubmint rather than Government - what you trying to express or achieve? I dont see the point - where is Ron when you need him

Garry

Don't need Ron, you understood what I meant.

Job done.

The British Government's coronavirus response is dangerous and incoherent, warns a former Chief Scientist, warning of a second wave.

British Government'''s coronavirus response '''dangerous, incoherent''' warns former chief scientist - ABC News

A couple of good reasons to keep the borders closed and monitered for a little longer.


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