Thread: Corona Virus

Originally Posted by gusthedog

Interesting that the four corners show didn’t mention that the issues with aged care are because they have slashed federal funding for aged care - that transmissions are essentially their fault because they haven’t supported aged care adequately. But its all Dan’s fault really because he’s Labour and the Feds are libs.

I find the liberal party to be totally inhuman in this space. You only matter as much as you contribute to the economic bottom line. Other that that, in their view you have have little or no intrinsic value.

It’s really disturbing that the Murdoch media is so focused on crushing the Labour Party, rather than reporting factually on the issue.

And amusing when it blows up in their faces:

The Herald Sun Tried To Torpedo Dan Andrews With A Popularity Poll

68 / 32 in favour of Daniel Andrews.

Suggests that the Huns own readers aren't buying it.

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

Barnaby Spends Entire Grocery Trip Wondering How Tamworth Shopping Centre Got That Car Inside V Barnaby’s Boondoggle: documents reveal $80m price for ‘Watergate’ licences was nearly twice valuation


There was a article about putting a man putting his head in a microwave rather than watching a TV show with a masked singer. Given Covid 19 has a lot of us in masks I hope the singing is a lot more successful than people I am talking to on the phone who are wearing a mask and unintelligible Where is that microwave- I can see the logic

Hey James, maybe they have misunderstood about masks & are actually wearing a Gag?

There was a article about putting a man putting his head in a microwave rather than watching a TV show

Watching Australian TV these days would make me wish to do the same. Problem with doing that is as the turntable rotates, one's boots would keep dragging on the counter-top.


'er indoors is going spare & is threatening to go over to NETFLIX. Problem Solvered.

Originally Posted by JDNSW

While I have to agree that Australia has done quite well compared to many, perhaps most, other countries, to say "It was, dare I say, unprecedented" is just straight out incorrect.

Pandemics have been (or should have been) part of government planning for centuries, and certainly since the SARS outbreak the experts have all been warning of a probable repeat of the 1918-20 flu pandemic. The WHO and most government epidemiological centres worldwide have been predicting an imminent worldwide pandemic of an airborne infection that would have consequences similar to the 1918-20 pandemic that provides a precedent, and warned that with modern ease of travel it would spread much more rapidly.

If governments have been unprepared, there is no excuse that it was unprecedented or they were not warned. Even as someone with no training in epidemiology, just with a general scientific training background it was obvious to me by the end of January where we, and the world, was going, although I would have expected Australia to be in a worse place and the USA a bit better than the current situation.

I was trying to be nice.

It's true pandemics have been with us for centuries. In 1918, at the end of WW2, the worst pandemic since the Black Death [great Bubonic Plague of 1346-1353, killed an estimated 75-200 million] the 1918-19 influenza pandemic killed more than 50 million people, 40% of the Australian population [ 5 million ] fell sick and 15,000 died. The influenza pandemic is accepted as originating in the USA, in 1917, and taken to France with US troops.

The first infected ship to enter Australian waters was the SS Mataram , entering Darwin 18 October 1918.Over the next six months the quarantine services intercepted 323 vessels, 174 of which carried the infection. Of the 81,510 people who were checked , 1,102 were infected.

The Federal Government held a national influenza planning conference, in Melbourne during 26-27 November 1918 , where State health ministers, the Directors-general of their health departments and British Medical Association representatives met to discuss what action was to be taken . The conference agreed that the federal government would take responsibility for proclaiming which states were infected along with organising maritime and land quarantine. The states would arrange emergency hospitals , vaccination depots , ambulance services , medical staff and public awareness measures. All states had quarantine stations [ North Head in NSW, Point Nepean in Victoria, Bruny Island in Tasmania, Torrens Island in South Australia, Woodman Point in WA, and Lytton in Brisbane. More were planned , and in due course temporary quarantine stations and influenza hospitals were set up to handle the increasing number of infected Australians.

Additionally the Commonwealth Serum Laboratories , that had been established during the war to alleviate Aus. dependence on imported vaccines developed its first experimental pneumonic influenza vaccine, between 15 October 1918 and 15 March 1919 over 3 million doses were given to returning soldiers and sailors and the civilian population. The vaccine was deemed partially effective in preventing death to inoculated individuals.

The first recorded case of pneumonic influenza appeared in Melbourne on 9/10 January 1919, but the disease may have reached Victoria before then as there was delay in the Victorian government advising Federal authorities . This allowed the infection to spread to NSW and SA by the end of Jan. 1919. NSW was the first state to officially proclaim an outbreak of pneumonic influenza on 27 Jan. 1919, Victoria declaring an outbreak the following day.

The Australian Navy was part of the solution to the pandemic. In late November 1918 news was received that the pandemic had struck Samoa, [ controlled by NZ , formerly a German colony,] Fiji and Tonga, [both British protectorates. ] Britain and NZ requested immediate assistance from Australia, [ the pandemic had struck NZ in October 1918, resulting in several thousands of deaths and overwhelming the Nations health system.] HMAS encounter embarked Army and Naval medical personnel and equipment to set up field hospitals and all necessary medical equipment and supplies to combat the disease in Samoa and Tonga. In Fiji, the sloop HMAS Fantome, provided support to a NZ medical team . The disease was under control in the islands by Jan- Feb.. 1919. HMAS Sleuth, a patrol vessel stood off the North Head quarantine station monitoring ships in quarantine to prevent soldiers and passengers " breaking out' from the quarantine station , and ships in quarantine. Over 160,000 Aus. military personnel returned from Europe and the Middle East from DEC 1918 until Sep. 1919, many with wives and children.

In conclusion, the measures employed in each state [ mandatory wearing of masks and prevention of mass gatherings] did not stop the disease but did dramatically slow its spread. By the end of 1919 the pandemic was over. The bulk of Aus. deaths occurred in capital cities where the population was more densely housed, particularly in working class slums with lower standards of health, hygiene, and diet.

Considering the international mass transit systems in place in the 21st century, I believe Australia has done reasonably well. The fact that a large part of our infections have come from mistakes, rather than a total systemic failure, should be regarded as remarkable. And our health workers deserve all our praise.

EDIT. Torrens Island is in SA. My bad.

Originally Posted by Hogarthde

Also the Darwin ‘News’,

Ah yes, the good old crocodile special, gotta luv it.

Originally Posted by incisor

AS MUCH AS I KNOW THIS IS A WASTE OF TIME....

michaelwest.com.au
thesaturdaypaper.com.au

are as about as good as it gets

Michael West is a good go to to find a balance against the Murdoch press, however an open mind is needed for any foray into the propaganda stew that is modern " news " reporting.

Put this and more out on Medical and a few other forums. You might like a look at the Very short version


Covid 19 Vaccination Planning -Discuss/consider


“The long-term solution to the coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) pandemic, hopefully, will be a globally implemented, safe vaccination program that has broad clinical and socioeconomic benefits. Dozens of vaccines are in development, with 8 currently in phase 1 trials. Some scenarios predict the earliest, widespread availability of a COVID-19 vaccine to be in 2021.¹ As launches of prior mass vaccination programs have demonstrated, careful planning to ensure readiness of both the general public and the health community for a COVID-19 vaccine should begin now.” Planning for a COVID-19 Vaccination Program | Infectious Diseases | JAMA | JAMA Network

Issues/Item

1. 1. Logistics
2. 2. Identification, Scheduling and Recording
3. 3. Objections to a COVID-19 Vaccine/Disruptions
4. 4. Education

Our Medical Centres will play a central role in COVID-19 vaccination. We need planning and preparation. Our patient records for our communities will if implemented effectively make one of the main implementation items efficient and allow a rapid response particularly with Identification, Scheduling and Recording.

Another security guard stuff up, this time in Sydney.

Sydney hotel guard tests positive to virus, pair arrested in WA