Thread: Corona Virus

Originally Posted by Fatso

Remember that , shirt off , hands on hips walk through and get jabbed from both sides i was a C .

I can imagine that. A bunch of burly Jack Tars mincing along in a queue with hands on hips. Erase that thought Mr. bee

Probably all trying to emulate Popeye.

I'm Popeye The Sailor Man by Sammy Lerner - Piano Improvisation by Charles "Popeye" Manning - YouTube

Food for thought. From Westprint friday five.

Perspective and Food for Thought

I’ve not verified any of the stats in this, but it still holds good as food for thought. Peter.
It’s messy out there now. Hard to discern between what’s a real threat and what is just simple panic and hysteria. For a small amount of perspective at this moment, imagine you were born in 1900. On your 14th birthday, World War I starts, and ends on your 18th birthday. 22 million people perish in that war. Later in the year, a Spanish Flu epidemic hits the planet and runs until your 20th birthday. 50 million people die from it in those two years. Yes, 50 million.

On your 29th birthday, the Great Depression begins. Unemployment hits 25%, the World GDP drops 27%. That runs until you are 33. The country nearly collapses along with the world economy. When you turn 39, World War II starts. You aren’t even over the hill yet. And don’t try to catch your breath. On your 41st birthday, the United States is fully pulled into WWII. Between your 39th and 45th birthday, 75 million people perish in the war.

Smallpox was epidemic until you were in your 40s, as it killed 300 million people during your lifetime. At 50, the Korean War starts. Five million perish. From your birth, until you are 55 you dealt with the fear of Polio epidemics each summer. You experience friends and family contracting polio and being paralyzed and/or die. At 55 the Vietnam War begins and doesn’t end for 20 years. Four million people perish in that conflict.

During the Cold War, you lived each day with the fear of nuclear annihilation. On your 62nd birthday you have the Cuban Missile Crisis, a tipping point in the Cold War. Life on our planet, as we know it, almost ended. When you turn 75, the Vietnam War finally ends.
Think of everyone on the planet born in 1900. How did they endure all of that? When you were a kid in 1985 and didn’t think your 85-year-old grandparent understood how hard school was. Yet they survived through everything listed above.

Perspective is an amazing art. Refined and enlightening as time goes on. Let’s try and keep things in perspective. Your parents and/or grandparents were called to endure all of the above. We are being asked to stay home and wash our hands.

Tokyo 2020 chief executive Toshiro Muto said a global rollout of Covid-19 vaccines could be a key factor in allowing the Games to be staged.
"Once vaccinations are conducted widely in the US and Europe, I think there is no doubt that it will have a positive effect [on the Games]," he said on Friday.
"However, it doesn't solve everything. We are hopeful about the vaccines, but at the same time, I think it is inappropriate to be totally dependent on it."
Lord Coe added: "It's a challenge - it'll be delusional not to believe that.



The rescheduled Tokyo Games may have to be held behind closed doors if they are to go ahead in Japan this year, athletics chief Lord Coe has admitted.
The World Athletics president remained confident the Olympics and Paralympics would take place despite a Times report suggesting they would be cancelled.


"I would love to have fans, noisy and passionate," Coe told the BBC.
"But if the only way we're able to deliver it is behind closed doors, I think everybody is accepting of that."
Coe, who headed the London 2012 organising committee and is also an International Olympic Committee (IOC) member, said, in the event of a cancellation, it was "not a realistic solution" to push back Paris 2024 and Los Angeles 2028 in order for Tokyo to host the Olympics in three years' time.

Will it happen- Pretty Please.

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

We did that on ships deployment O.S.. 330 gents lined up on the wharf. A doc or medic left and right for both arms at the same time and two extras bedside them. The extras were the Catchers for those who fainted with the injections. Surprisingly common It was alphabetical as a bonus Ian. Being a B had its advantages. I got my jabs then a cup of cha and sat and watch to see the catching. It was a hoot. Big small and in between made no difference. About 1 in 50 or a bit better I was not the bookie for it. Come in spinner was cool and the cheer for those going down was huge

Originally Posted by Fatso

Remember that , shirt off , hands on hips walk through and get jabbed from both sides i was a C .

I hope this was done with a clean needle for each "patient"?

RSPCA issues warning after animals found entangled in disposable face mask straps - ABC News

Key points:

• The RSCPA responded to a report of an ibis with a mask wrapped around its leg over the weekend
• It said the issue is widespread in the UK and they are worried more animals will become entangled in PPE in Australia
• Wild Bird Rescues Gold Coast responds to around 150 entanglements annually, usually in fishing line"
• When we were kids our dad would tell us to squash the jam, beans, etc. tins, so that if a naughty dog raided the bin bags on collection day, at least it wouldn't get it's nose stuck in a tin.

A Giddy Anthony Fauci Says It’s “Liberating” Not to Work for an Ignorant Moron Who Lies About Everything All the Time


Speaking to the White House press corps on Thursday, an exuberant Fauci, who’d been sidelined by Trump for months, said it was downright freeing to work for someone who actually wants him to tell the nation the truth about the pandemic, and not just pretend it’s going to “miraculously” go away. “I can tell you I take no pleasure at all in being in a situation of contradicting the president, so it was really something that you didn’t feel you could actually say something and there wouldn’t be any repercussions about it,” he said.

“The idea that you can get up here and talk about what you know, what the evidence and science is, and know that’s it—let the science speak—it is somewhat of a liberating feeling.”


A Giddy Anthony Fauci Says It’s “Liberating” Not to Work for an Ignorant Moron Who Lies About Everything All the Time | Vanity Fair

Pfizer Will Ship Fewer Vaccine Vials to Account for ‘Extra’ Doses

It's all about business. Hopefully this is just a US thing, and our lot will not be effected.


After the surprise discovery of an extra dose in every vial, Pfizer executives successfully lobbied the F.D.A. to change the vaccine’s formal authorization language. The company charges by the dose.
When Pfizer first began shipping the vaccines in mid-December, it said that each vial contained enough liquid for five doses. But pharmacists in hospitals across the country soon noticed that the vials held enough for a sixth — and sometimes a seventh — dose. The discovery prompted a flurry of excitement and confusion, with some pharmacists throwing out the extra vaccine because they did not have permission to use it.

But Pfizer insisted that those doses be counted toward its existing contract. It can now sell vials the United States had been expecting to other countries, or charge the United States for them in future deals. That could threaten the wave of good publicity that the company has enjoyed since developing a highly effective vaccine at record speed.
“Pfizer will make a lot of money from these vaccines, and the U.S. government assumed a lot of the upfront risk in this case, so I’m not sure why Pfizer didn’t just continue to fill their supply as planned, even if it meant oversupplying a little,” said Dr. Aaron S. Kesselheim, a professor of medicine at the Brigham and Women’s Hospital and Harvard Medical School, who studies drug prices.



Pfizer Will Ship Fewer Vaccine Vials to Account for ‘Extra’ Doses - The New York Times (nytimes.com)

Complacency and its costs. A message from the US experience, with coronavirus. Even when you think you have it beat, it can bite you. The New York Times.



Complacency and its costs
The next phase of the pandemic in the United States will most likely be determined by two factors: the new virus variants and the vaccine rollout.
Public health experts have likened the situation to a race. If the more contagious variants are able to spread faster than the country can distribute vaccines, experts fear the nation may see another powerful surge of the virus — as happened in Britain, Ireland and elsewhere.


And yet there are things Americans can do right now to help get the virus under control and save lives. Those measures include wearing masks, avoiding large gatherings, and staying home as much as possible. Experts have been asking these things of the public for nearly a year. Tragically, large swaths of the country still refuse to follow this simple advice.

Our colleague David Leonhardt, who writes The Morning newsletter, recently took a road trip across the country to help his mother get vaccinated, and said that almost everywhere he stopped — including gas stations, rest stops and hotels in half a dozen states — people ignored mask restrictions “I came home from my trip shaken by what I had seen,” he wrote. “I feel like I just drove across a country that is losing a winnable fight.”


Nationally, only about half of Americans wear masks when in close contact with people outside their households, according to a new survey by the University of Southern California.
Throughout the pandemic, many communities have resisted virus restrictions, or have removed them quickly after they are put in place. No region has had a higher case rate during the pandemic than Yuma, Arizona, which is experiencing another surge of the virus. Cleavon Gilman, an emergency medicine doctor at Yuma Regional Medical Center, blames the state’s governor, Doug Ducey, for failing to enact stringent measures.
“Everything is open — restaurants, gyms, barbershops,” he said. “People are needlessly dying because there is no statewide mandate to prevent it.”


Not long ago in New York, Gov. Andrew Cuomo pledged to largely lock down areas where positive test rates consistently topped 4 percent. But as rates rose above that threshold statewide, those plans were scrapped. Now, New York City has 54 ZIP codes showing a positive test rate over 10 percent, and records around 5,000 new cases a day.
Gareth Rhodes, an adviser to the governor, said that there was not much more the state could do get people to follow health guidelines, noting that restaurants were still shut down, and many office workers had not yet returned to their workplaces. “The reality is that personal behavior is what matters now,” he said.


Public health experts are beginning to wonder how much worse the data needs to get before officials consider new steps and restrictions. The country is still recording tens of thousands of cases a day and deaths are near record highs.“I feel like people are numbed by the numbers; I worry about the complacency and fatigue,” said Dr. Wafaa El-Sadr, an epidemiologist at Columbia University’s Mailman School of Public Health.

“I worry about the focus on vaccines, rather than what’s happening with the virus.”