Thread: four police officers killed after being hit by semi-trailer on eastern hwy vic

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Ice pipe allegedly found in cabin of smashed truck

is there anyone on the road who isnt high now days?

Originally Posted by scarry

Here sometimes they are in pairs,other times single.

Thinking more about this,i often see police talking to a driver,while he/she is in the drivers seat,and the officer is in a very bad spot,with the traffic going past,often at speed.We don't have the 'reduce speed' laws they have down south.

Maybe it should be mandatory that,when safe,the officer asks the drive to get out of the vehicle and walk off the road,or at least to the left side of the vehicle.

Nothing to stop them walking around and speaking in through the passenger side window. Especially with electric windows, the driver can easily lower the passenger side window.

I was taught early on to treat every passing car as you would a bullet. If it hits you, you're dead.

The Porsche driver was outside of his vehicle. First thing to do then would be for everyone to step behind the guardrail.

Originally Posted by scarry

As others have said,many roads don't have anywhere to pull off,including most of the motorways, i suppose this is to reduce costs when they are built.

On motorways where the "breakdown lane" is used for traffic, other management techniques such as CCTV monitoring and dedicated incident response vehicles (with crash attenuators) are used to manage broken down vehicles or blockages.

I don't know if having a spotter would have made any difference if the driver had lost control of the truck.

Legally, restrictions on details reported only apply in that state under state law. So, for example, before the Porsche driver appeared in court in Victoria, his name could not be reported in Victoria, but Victorian laws don't apply in other states, so his name could be and was published outside Victoria. That's how a federal system works.

Originally Posted by cjc_td5

On motorways where the "breakdown lane" is used for traffic, other management techniques such as CCTV monitoring and dedicated incident response vehicles (with crash attenuators) are used to manage broken down vehicles or blockages.

Yes I think we all know that,but a lot can happen during the time these vehicles eventually get to the incident,particularly when they are stuck in heavy traffic.

I don’t know the area where this incident occurred,but there didn’t seem to be any dedicated incident response vehicles at the scene?

From the TV the truck appears to have crossed 2 or 3 lanes to go into the emergency lane, and maybe then bounced off the barrier into the three vehicles, so that would be difficult to plan for.

I remember once changing a flat tyre on the driver's side rear of a Hyundai van in the narrow space between the outside white lane and the Armco, northbound on the Pacific Highway north of Byron Bay, while also trying to ensure a group of students stayed outside the Armco, and we didn't get hit by passing vehicles, including trucks and buses. Not a fun experience.

Originally Posted by Vinnie

What a tragic set of circumstances that have led to the horrible deaths of four Police just doing their job. There is, and unfortunately always will be speculation. In my opinion it's an unfortunate part of humans trying to guess what has happened and come to an explanation for the end result, especially with tragedy. I don't think there is a need for anyone on this forum to start name calling at each other because of differing opinions or because of speculation. Unfortunately the end result will never change. Over the next period of time details of the Police investigation will come to light and more of the exact circumstances will become known. I definitely have an opinion of what has caused this tragedy, I won't be airing it here, but I hope I am wrong. I feel for the the families of the deceased Police, the witnesses that saw it and onlookers who tried to help, the emergency services that had to attend and serving Police members. The only opinion I will air is that there is absolutely no excuse for the Porsche driver to leave the scene, but even more reprehensible is the fact that he took photos of dead people, let alone Police and posted them on social media. What a piece of **** he is and I hope he gets punished fully by the legal system and the karma bus. So please speculate, have your opinions if that helps you, BUT PLEASE BE RESPECTFUL WHEN DOING SO!

Vinnie

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Originally Posted by Eevo

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is there anyone on the road who isnt high now days?

I can name a few (me included)