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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    the traditional owners first. Typical.


    What, nobody consulted the kadimakara? Typical. I mean, they were here before the so called traditional owners. Shouldn't we ask them?

    When does this **** end?

    Kadimakara australiensis - Wikipedia
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    Quote Originally Posted by bob10 View Post
    Don't know.
    No. Of course not, Bob. You haven't considered it. Time you did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigbjorn View Post
    Several "Secret business" places and "sacred sites" have been found not to be so secret or sacred once the mining companies started splashing $$$$$$ around.
    Funny that. Amazing what a lobby group can do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by INter674 View Post
    I hope they di as I've always wanted to climb it but the last time I was there it was too windy...not..and we were told to wait until the coach visitors had left and we'd be allowed up. Unfortunately we had to find a camp site outside the park so had to leave b 4 it got too dark.

    Pity...it was quite an attraction to going there in the first place😐
    But heck, it sure was something from a distance, right?? Next time, head for Mt Augustus in WA. Nobody has claimed that. Yet. And it's bigger, only not so red.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonesfam View Post
    The Gold Coast with a little less Bling & not as much fun.
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    Sure doesn't have the High Rise and the surf.. But it has a pull the Gold Coast can never match. Funny, didn't the "traditional owners" also own the Gold Coast? Surely they did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arapiles View Post
    Your belief would be wrong.
    Isn't that a matter of YOUR opinion? What evidence do you have that your opinion is correct? Could it be none? Opinion is just that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DiscoMick View Post
    Its traditional, a bit like we might feel if people started climbing a cathedral and peeing on the roof.
    People often do that on the Opera House, often to the cheering of the far left. Does that make their opinion more valuable than mine? I often pee on my garden. Is my garden any less property of these Traditional Owners than the Rock? If so, how?

    Here is a challenge. All those who believe that the 'Traditional Owners' have some claim to this country can give up their house, or Body Corporate, or freehold, or whatever to those Traditional Owners, in some kind of ceremony, and I'll match you.

    How about it? Is your little piece of Australia stolen? Do you owe your block to somebody else?

    This country belongs to us ALL. If you believe otherwise put your money where your mouth is.... Damn, there should really be a 'crickets' emoji on this site, 'cos that's what's needed. Not one of you would give up your little piece, but you pontificate about us all giving up everything. Well, I won't. Everything changes, and it always will. I'm as Australian as Justin, and , what can I say, he told me to call him an Abo, and everyone will jump on me for doing so, but he was fine with it, I'm as Australian as he is, and I'm older. When are people going to stop being led by the nose by busybody nobodies?? Has everyone lost their individuality? Justin sure hasn't, though I don't see him so much these days.

    Mick, if you seriously believe that the rock is a cathedral, I suggest you get out and live with the people you are simplistically championing. They have no concept of cathedral. They don't care about what you think is important. And, most importantly, the people you think are important no longer exist. There are no tribes any more. There sure are no traditional tribes anywhere near the rock. Like it or not, those days have been over for nearly 100 years. If you want to turn back the clock, start with your place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    No. Of course not, Bob. You haven't considered it. Time you did.

    Not at all. Your trolling is not going to work.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    Given that Red Dan doesn't give a **** about his tunnel undermining St Paul's in Melbourne, I guess the answer to your question is a resounding NO. The question should be what, if anything IS sacred. Sacred depends on your belief system. Mine suggests that Ayers Rock is just that, a rock. Yours seems to suggest otherwise. Is yours more important than mine?
    My comment Gawd, is nothing sacred? is meant to be 'Tongue in Cheek', JT.
    This just goes to show how easily comments can be misconstrued.
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    I hope those on their soap box realise this article is purely about the business community in Alice Springs putting forward a suggestion they think will kick start the local economy. Nothing to do with the traditional owners at all. Those who suggest the traditional owners are pushing this in any way shape or form should actually read the article. Some of you have hijacked this thread to push your own agenda. I was hoping for a mature discussion on the proposal , it's merits and drawbacks, but sadly that is still not possible here. And that is sad.
    I’m pretty sure the dinosaurs died out when they stopped gathering food and started having meetings to discuss gathering food

    A bookshop is one of the only pieces of evidence we have that people are still thinking

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