Impeachment or the 25th before the 20th?

A coup , or not a coup?

Was it a coup? No, but siege on US Capitol was the election violence of a fragile democracy (theconversation.com)

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Originally Posted by rick130

If it was an Iman that had continually lied about the result of an election and deliberately fomented and manipulated the fringe as Trump has, and then an armed crowd stormed the Capitol, I think the right wing media may have reacted a little differently.

The parallels with the death of the Weimar Republic are too bloody scary for me.

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Swap out the great depression for the coronavirus, you may have a point. However, the legacy of WW1, effects of the Treaty of Versailles and the hyperinflation crisis in Germany in 1923, have no parallels with the USA today. The one very similar circumstance is that those charged with the custody of the German State did not stand up to the Leader of the Nazi Party.

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Originally Posted by bob10

Swap out the great depression for the coronavirus, you may have a point. However, the legacy of WW1, effects of the Treaty of Versailles and the hyperinflation crisis in Germany in 1923, have no parallels with the USA today. The one very similar circumstance is that those charged with the custody of the German State did not stand up to the Leader of the Nazi Party.

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The lying by the leader and enabling by a % of his party, the constant battering of democratic norms by a sociopathic and authoritarian leader, the pandering to fringe elements in the community to usurp and give a sense of illegitimacy to legally elected representatives, inventing bogeymen to give a sense of victimhood and outrage to the fringe elements that support the leader.

Yep, no parallels at all.

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Originally Posted by Ferret

Does this still apply?



For God's sake there is already a 170 page thread on Trump in current affairs containing the same posts in some cases as in here. How many threads are needed?

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Ferret, it is a bit hard to tell, when us out here haven't a clue what those in there are posting. Maybe CA should be opened to all & sundry. Perhaps not a good idea eh?[bigsad]

CA is open to all and sundry, well the all and sundry with any level of subscription, all you have to do is ask.

Here's something not thought about too much yet, the Capitol Hill IT staff face a security mess.

Coleman adds, though, that for now the most important thing congressional IT staffers can do is account for which devices were stolen and begin a mass effort to reset passwords, add multifactor authentication to any accounts that don't already have it, wipe and reimage hard drives when practical, and comb monitoring logs for signs of access or exfiltration.

Former National Security Agency hacker Jake Williams points out that, while US law enforcement was somehow caught flat-footed, president Donald Trump's supporters (egged on by Trump himself) have repeatedly foreshadowed that something like this could occur.
“You have to step back and realize that foreign intelligence could have looked at this and said, ‘Yeah, this is going to be an opportunity,” says Williams, founder of Rendition Infosec. “I don’t think every office that was entered everything needs to be burned to the ground, but you need to be acknowledging that there’s real intelligence value in learning legislators’ intentions and plans on policy. This security breach is a big deal.”




Post-Riot, the Capitol Hill IT Staff Faces a Security Mess | WIRED

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Originally Posted by 4bee

Ferret, it is a bit hard to tell, when us out here haven't a clue what those in there are posting. Maybe CA should be opened to all & sundry. Perhaps not a good idea eh?[bigsad]

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Actually it is open to all and sundry, you merely have to ask to look at it. I believe it was created and hidden from sight in past times because people got the ****s with the amount of rubbish / discord appearing on the main board. Sadly it's beginning to permeate back here.

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Originally Posted by JDNSW

It was a deliberate, planned attack, intended to prevent the confirmation of an election result.

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interfering in election results is different to insurrection tho.

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Originally Posted by Eevo

interfering in election results is different to insurrection tho.

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I would think that storming the US Senate by force would easilly qualify as Insurrection.
If that mob was black or even muslim I would imagine that the oucome and death rate would have been very different

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Originally Posted by Bulletman

Did anyone else notice the use of bullet proof glass for the first time.. must really trust those loyal supporters.

Just saying [bigwhistle]

Bulletman

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Yes I did, but thought they had installed a WW type Covid Type Sneeze screen. [bigrolf]