Thread: Old holdens.....prices!

Originally Posted by Homestar

Nice! Glad he’s got his head screwed on the right way - one of the young lads at work brags about his engine costing $40K in a dunny door or all things - he’s on entry level wages and has a missus and kids too and is always crying poor. Priorities are all upside down...

If I had all the $$$$ I wasted when I was a kid..., well, in my case I'd just waste them now..

But, $40K on a Commodore engine when he has kids says a whole lot about the person. Wife and kids first, toys later. That's what men do.

Originally Posted by POD

I've often thought that I can't see the old Holdens etc holding their value past the current generation of boomers / Xers; something like an HK monaro is worth a fortune to a 60-year-old who reminisces about drooling over them in his youth, but the youngsters without those memories won't be interested in them in 10 years time. $120k today, $30k in a few years?? A muscle car from the early 70s with 230 horsepower, cart springs and drums all round only has value due to nostalgia.

There is a well proven cycle in old collectible am at values.

There are those which are chased by the monied minority and take on a value that is driven by this collectible status

Then there are those where the value is driven by nostalgia of an age group who as you say can now afford the car they lusted over when young but could never afford

It is this second group where the prices fall away as they time moves on if the necessary critical mass of support and halo effect has not been created to produce a continued interest in the vehicle

Originally Posted by 3toes

There is a well proven cycle in old collectible am at values.

There are those which are chased by the monied minority and take on a value that is driven by this collectible status

Then there are those where the value is driven by nostalgia of an age group who as you say can now afford the car they lusted over when young but could never afford

It is this second group where the prices fall away as they time moves on if the necessary critical mass of support and halo effect has not been created to produce a continued interest in the vehicle

There is also a tiered system where if you can't afford that genuine GT you go 1 tier down to a GS ,Fairmont or even a Falcon.
Or you buy a less sort after vehicle to fill the void.

Originally Posted by loanrangie

There is also a tiered system where if you can't afford that genuine GT you go 1 tier down to a GS ,Fairmont or even a Falcon.

Or buy that 71 Falcon 500 - put some stripes on it, a 351 under the bonnet with a shaker on top, some Globe alloys - and then price it at 80% of a genuine GTHO Phase 3 and some idiot will buy it.

now my dream CAR WAS THE 2 DOOR FORD LANDAU

A Falcon hardtop with a bit welded into the back window.

The story goes and I believe it to be true that Bill Bourke came back from the USA with a Lincoln Continental Hubcap and instructed the Design team to build a car to suit it.

Thus the LTD was born and also the Landau.

I still cannot believe that Cobras are worth over 100KK.

When I first saw them I thought Edsel Ford was nuts as it was he who had called for the Cobra graphics, and they were made to get rid of excess hardtop parts that we had left over before their discontinuation.

Goes to show how you can be wrong for the right reasons. I still think they are an abomination even Though I allocated them to dealers.
Regards PhilipA
Another story vaguely on topic is that we sent a Hardtop to Detroit for evaluation. The USA returned it with a 428 fitted and it became Don Deveson's (the Broadmeadows plant manager) car. He used to drive it FAST down the aisles of Broadmeadows to ensure that the aisles were clear of wire storage boxes. Woe betide anyone who had a box sticking out. The damage was always on the rear guards over the wheels as this was the widest part of the car, and just about every manager who had one used to destroy the arches on fence posts etc.

Just about as relevant to the topic of the thread is that Citroen D series almost invarably have damage rear door, especially the left. This is related to the fact that despite the body width tapering from the 'B' pillar back, with the rear wheels almost brushing the rear bumper, they have an extraordinarily long wheelbase. Combine this with a very good turning circle (only a little over 11m).....

Add to this the extra skill required for reversing with the tapering width.....

Originally Posted by 101RRS

Or buy that 71 Falcon 500 - put some stripes on it, a 351 under the bonnet with a shaker on top, some Globe alloys - and then price it at 80% of a genuine GTHO Phase 3 and some idiot will buy it.

There is a bloke, not too far from me, who has an allegedly genuine Phase III, and also a replica that he made. I can't tell the difference. He has spent the $$ making the replica far more powerful than the so called original.
Really?
The only ones worth any sort of money are the ones that made some form of history, and all of those are well sewn up. You aren't going to find a piece of Moffat, Geoghan or Brock history in a shed somewhere. The prices for the cars that were 'associated' with those drivers are ridiculous.
I'd love to find a GTHO, or a Monaro, or a Torana, or a Beechy car, one that actually raced, in a shed somewhere. But I won't , and neither will you.
Who knows? Maybe I can find the Millenium Falcon instead.

Originally Posted by Roverlord off road spares

it astonishes me of how much disposal income some of the youngsters they have to purchase some of those old cars and then some thot them up.

Disposable income in Australia is incredible. Just look at all the MAMILs doing their Saturday morning bicycle ride on a bike that would have gone to the Olympics a few years ago.
Another factor with young people though is that they see the housing market as an impossibility, so don't bother saving for a house like the previous generation might have.