Thread: Indonesia asks for Aus. and Singapore to help in Submarine sinking

Originally Posted by 4bee

Good point bob, it happened with a Russian Sub. ie. A torpedo explosion in the tube I think it was.

Kursk submarine disaster - Wikipedia


Why would they have been playing with Torps, don't they know they are dangerous?

I guess it isn't the Torpedo but what's inside it, in the Kursk's case.

It is probably all academic now anyway unfortunately.

Whatever they pay submariners, it isn't enough.

Originally Posted by bob10

In 1968, the Nuclear Submarine , USS Scorpion, was lost in the Atlantic. In a nutshell, a thorough investigation showed, with the use of hydrophones, especially from the Canary Islands area, that Scorpion had abruptly changed course 180 degrees , and not long after an underwater explosion was heard. In those days torpedos were carried fully armed[ still are ] and occassionaly one would have what was called a "hot run."The torpedo would activate, and by turning 180 degrees you would trigger a fail safe device , shutting it down. The same safety devices prevented a torpedo turning and blowing up the Sub it came from. Something happened on Scorpion where the sinking was put down to the torpedo detonating. Not saying this happened here, but whatever happened, it was quick, and no distress signal was sent.

The Navy ODE;

" They have no grave but the cruel sea

No flowers lay at their head

A rusting hulk is their tombstone

afast on the ocean bed

They shall not grow old, as we that are left grow old

Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn.

At the going down of the sun , and in the morning, we will remember them."

R.I.P.

We will & thanks.



From 3toes.News here says that the commander of the submarines was on board

Hope that will not have caused a breakdown in decisions as the top person was not there to authorise deployment of rescue plan earlier


More importantly that that person did not override a decision or procedure of the normal Captain or OoW?

Originally Posted by bob10

Whatever they pay submariners, it isn't enough.

10-15years ago they were the highest paid in the aust defense force.
assume its still the same

Originally Posted by Eevo

10-15years ago they were the highest paid in the aust defense force.
assume its still the same

Correct, but they still cannot attract enough

Originally Posted by 4bee

We will & thanks.



From 3toes.News here says that the commander of the submarines was on board

Hope that will not have caused a breakdown in decisions as the top person was not there to authorise deployment of rescue plan earlier


More importantly that that person did not override a decision or procedure of the normal Captain or OoW?

Actually, that was something lost in translation. the " Commander " was the Boats Captain.

Originally Posted by Eevo

10-15years ago they were the highest paid in the aust defense force.
assume its still the same

I believe it’s still volunteer based.......my oldest and constantly being asked to become a submariner when his training is completed.

Originally Posted by W&KO

I believe it’s still volunteer based.......my oldest and constantly being asked to become a submariner when his training is completed.

all of the defnse force is volunteer based, so I'm not understand the context of what you mean.

Originally Posted by Eevo

all of the defnse force is volunteer based, so I'm not understand the context of what you mean.

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