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    Quote Originally Posted by Slunnie View Post
    They're not a problem where I lay the baits, none of it is outside and it is hopefully where other animals cant get to it... except my dog is a ninja. I now generally use cage traps and buckets.
    Birds of prey, even magpies around here, die because they're eating the carcasses of rats and mice poisoned by the type 2's. They're not eating the actual bait.

    The type 2's accumulate in the birds because of really long half lives, compared with type 1's like warfurin and even pindone.

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    I use the baits I get from Landmark and they do diddly squat to any predators.
    The feral cats and foxes are doing just fine after I have baited until they get in my crosshairs
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Imagine if there weren’t shooters though Rodent baits and their effect on native fauna

    It’s been documented many times,recreation,and sporting shooters generally only take a small percentage of vermin.

    Apart from shooting from helicopters which is one of the more successful ways of culling some vermin and surprisingly cost effective.

    But in many instances,there are way more effective ways of culling vermin than shooting.

    Unfortunately some of the other ways involve poisons of one type or another.

    Trapping,using dogs of different types for different types of vermin,are usually very successful.

    Sure dogs can be used by shooters,and when they are,increase vermin eradication rates markedly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tombie View Post
    Imagine if there weren’t shooters though Rodent baits and their effect on native fauna
    Indeed. I don't shoot personally, but I am a member of the SSA. The goat problem is largely due to the farmer's control of dingoes and wild dogs on sheep pastures. Where the dog population isn't so controlled you get far fewer goats. I doubt the pig population will ever be controlled, and as for cane toads and myna birds, well....

    It was always going to happen and we might as well get used to it. It is completely risible to think man can control nature, but there are $billions available for those who can convince folk that they can, so of course they claim they can. It's high time people woke up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scarry View Post
    It’s been documented many times,recreation,and sporting shooters generally only take a small percentage of vermin.

    Apart from shooting from helicopters which is one of the more successful ways of culling some vermin and surprisingly cost effective.

    But in many instances,there are way more effective ways of culling vermin than shooting.

    Unfortunately some of the other ways involve poisons of one type or another.

    Trapping,using dogs of different types for different types of vermin,are usually very successful.

    Sure dogs can be used by shooters,and when they are,increase vermin eradication rates markedly.
    I don't disagree in general. but I don't see these strategies dealing with the approx 25,000,000 feral pigs Australia is home to.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    Indeed. I don't shoot personally, but I am a member of the SSA. The goat problem is largely due to the farmer's control of dingoes and wild dogs on sheep pastures. Where the dog population isn't so controlled you get far fewer goats. I doubt the pig population will ever be controlled, and as for cane toads and myna birds, well....

    It was always going to happen and we might as well get used to it. It is completely risible to think man can control nature, but there are $billions available for those who can convince folk that they can, so of course they claim they can. It's high time people woke up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tins View Post
    I don't disagree in general. but I don't see these strategies dealing with the approx 25,000,000 feral pigs Australia is home to.
    Yes,I agree,it’s a huge problem,I have been shooting them for over 45 yrs.

    Shooters from helicopters work well in some areas,as does poisoned grain,but the pigs come back very quickly.

    Traps also work reasonable well.

    But all this is only putting a very small dent in the overall population.

    The drought really knocked them in western Qld,but they are coming back,same as the Roos.

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    The pig problem in particular is not helped by “hunters” relocating pigs closer to home and releasing them
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tote View Post
    The pig problem in particular is not helped by “hunters” relocating pigs closer to home and releasing them
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    When the bounty was introduced into NSW feral pigs turned up in areas they had never been seen before, proves there are more than a few irresponsible shooters.
    On a separate note it's good to see local councils supporting weekend shooters by placing sighting targets on the roadside (roadsigns) for them. Also some locals are a help providing letterbox's/roos/and sometimes stock in roadside paddocks as targets. Roadside spotlighters are a big problem in some areas, long weekends being the most dangerous time. We have had shooters from the road sending rounds close to the house, also leaving wounded/dead stock/roos in roadside paddocks.

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