Thread: Covid Mk ll

Originally Posted by Tote

I thought the opening date wasn't set in stone?

Regards,
Tote

It isn't YET and IF the case numbers on the Eastern seaboard keep going the way they are for the next few weeks it would be sheer Lunacy to open up the State at that time.

Regardless of your vaccination status the chances of getting infected are still very high, "MAYBE" you won't die from COV19 when vaccinated But it will definately make you bloody crook and the chances of ending up in hospital are pretty good.

As everyone keeps saying that the WA health system isn't up to scratch at the moment it makes absolute sense to keep the unwashed out of the State until the health system IS up to scratch before we unleash this beastie upon the States population.

Originally Posted by trout1105

It isn't YET and IF the case numbers on the Eastern seaboard keep going the way they are for the next few weeks it would be sheer Lunacy to open up the State at that time.

There is no way they wont continue an upward trend for weeks,and possibly months

Regardless of your vaccination status the chances of getting infected are still very high, "MAYBE" you won't die from COV19 when vaccinated But it will definately make you bloody crook and the chances of ending up in hospital are pretty good.

Or do some damage that has a lasting affect on the body

As everyone keeps saying that the WA health system isn't up to scratch at the moment it makes absolute sense to keep the unwashed out of the State until the health system IS up to scratch before we unleash this beastie upon the States population.

No other state has worried about that,so why would WA?The health system in QLD hasnt been up to speed for decades.

As i said before,WA will open the borders,case numbers will rocket up like all the other states,its inevitable.It will happen.
It can't stay as a Zoo for ever.

No other state has worried about that,so why would WA?The health system in QLD hasnt been up to speed for decades.

The other States don't have the advantage of being able to physically prevent the spread or the Will to prevent the spread of this virus and if you look at the health **** storm happening in just about every other State except for WA even blind freddy can see that regardless of weither poeple like it or not WA's border restrictions are most definately working.

In most States you can't even get tested because the systems are simply overwhelmed and the actual case numbers are most likely Much higher than what is being reported because of this.
Everyone is now playing catch up with booster shots, The hospital staff are run off their feet and once again the hospitalisations/death tolls are rising.

It is looking very much like the rest of Australia has jumped the gun easing estrictions and border crossings and the population is paying the price for these politically and financially motivated decisions.

This is why I think that WA should sit on the fence for a while longer until it is Safe enough to open up the border because at the moment whatever is being done on the eastern seaboard doesn't appear to be going that successfully so it realy doesnt make that much sense to follow that lead does it.

Originally Posted by scarry

No other state has worried about that,so why would WA?

That might be because the incumbent has been promising to do something about the health system since prior to their initial election and has been progressively driving it into the ground ever since. If the money promised in the last budget materialises, WA should be G2G with an open border sometime just before the next election. I have a number of friends who are nurses that are trying to cut back on hours or take long service leave before the shtf.

In the mean time, I'll put the celebratory booze back in the fridge.

I'm over at Rotto at the moment, and took the lad into the settlement today on the bus as it's his first trip and he wanted to see what it was all about. I can not get over the swarms of entitled dickheads who proudly ignore the rules, even when asked politely by someone with authority. I can't even blame most of the ***** for being foreigners. Makes me sad to be a West Australian.

I also observed that since I was a younger bloke, either the young women are either getting larger, or the manufacturers of swimwear are getting more economical with their cloth yardage. I love summer.

Some interesting observations in the news today.....

Victoria is going to make it "mandatory " to report RAT test results via some as yet undisclosed mechanism. For what purpose other than giving the govt an idea of how many cases are out there?

Here's a scenario - A bloke goes to a pub and catches a "cold" he has two options, get a RAT test to confirm that he has covid, behave himself, isolate and minimise spread for 7 days or he could tell his result to he government which will no doubt take time and notify them to put him on a watch list to ensure that he doesn't leave the house. I'm pretty sure what most people will do and that's stay at home, don't bother with a test or if they do, don't bother reporting the result.

NSW also has a strange situation around these tests, If you test positive on a RAT you've got to isolate for a week and you are good to go. If you are a close contact you have to take a RAT, isolate and take another one on day 6 and if its positive you'r off for another week. Seems easier to just accept that if you go outside your house you are probably going to get it and if you do you have the sniffles for a few days. *unless you are unvaccinated (probably)

It seems the biggest concern the Government(s) have is that they can't put a number on the real number of infections rather than any public health response.

If people report positive RAT's and it was tracked there would never be enough resources to ensure compliance with isolation rules, so why does it matter. Time to move on from covid zero measures that don't work when 30% of those tested are positive.

Regards,
Tote

Originally Posted by trout1105

It isn't YET and IF the case numbers on the Eastern seaboard keep going the way they are for the next few weeks it would be sheer Lunacy to open up the State at that time.

Regardless of your vaccination status the chances of getting infected are still very high, "MAYBE" you won't die from COV19 when vaccinated But it will definately make you bloody crook and the chances of ending up in hospital are pretty good.

As everyone keeps saying that the WA health system isn't up to scratch at the moment it makes absolute sense to keep the unwashed out of the State until the health system IS up to scratch before we unleash this beastie upon the States population.

Let’s put some context on that to calm it a bit.

If you’re vaxxed, and if you get Cov19, then you have a bloody good chance that nothing will happen at all - perhaps a sore throat and a sniffle.

Statistically one in ~300 infected persons will have a problem.

Whilst highly infectious in Omicron strain, and therefore increased likelihood of contracting.

From the ABS -
Influenza and Pneumonia deaths up so far in AU account for 1,816 persons - down compared to the 2015-2019 average of 2,908 persons.

By comparison, since Covid came to visit in all its variants - infection cases have been higher (than flu) and condition not conducive to life of 2,271 persons.


I’m not trying to underplay this pandemic, only highlighting that the phrase “be alert, not alarmed” should be applicable here.

And the same sort of preventative measures a person in an at risk category for Flu etc, apply in this case.

Originally Posted by Tombie

Let’s put some context on that to calm it a bit.

If you’re vaxxed, and if you get Cov19, then you have a bloody good chance that nothing will happen at all - perhaps a sore throat and a sniffle.

Statistically one in ~300 infected persons will have a problem.

Whilst highly infectious in Omicron strain, and therefore increased likelihood of contracting.

From the ABS -
Influenza and Pneumonia deaths up so far in AU account for 1,816 persons - down compared to the 2015-2019 average of 2,908 persons.

By comparison, since Covid came to visit in all its variants - infection cases have been higher (than flu) and condition not conducive to life of 2,271 persons.


I’m not trying to underplay this pandemic, only highlighting that the phrase “be alert, not alarmed” should be applicable here.

And the same sort of preventative measures a person in an at risk category for Flu etc, apply in this case.

Currently at home in ISO as our eldest (16) has covid, double vaxxed, flu like symptoms. He's up and about, just feels crap. Just waiting for our turn now

Originally Posted by Tombie

And the same sort of preventative measures a person in an at risk category for Flu etc, apply in this case.

...and therein lies a previous problem. I always got real ****ed at the TV ads for cold and flu symptom alleviation products so people can "soldier on with..." etc... so they take these and come to work loaded with medication and flu virus and pass it on to others. That just used to **** me off. Every winter I'd see this...

I hope that after C19, people see the cold and flu differently and if they have the sniffles of any sort, stay at home and keep it to themselves.