Thread: Covid Mk ll

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

I still think the missed other illness over the last few years are a ticking time bomb being rather ignored.

Yes is a very real issue - friend was diagnosed with prostate cancer early 2020 - was initially diagnosed as low level so no medical intervention at the time. Each time he then went to the hospital for follow up checkup was turned away due influx of Covid patients. Tested by his doctor a few weeks back and his cancer is now high level and needs urgent intervention but the system is still overloaded and is waiting for treatment.

His elderly mother fell and is in hospital - another patient was admitted and tested positive for covid in hospital - all staff in contact are out. The hospital has only about half the staff and one shift did not have a doctor. My friend with the cancer going back and forth to the hospital to see to his mum has started coughing up blood - I suggested he speak to someone at the hospital but will wait until he sees his GP next.

Yes Covid has had and is having a major impact on treatment for other ailments.

Not so dramatic, but I tore knee cartilage in early 2020 - by the time my surgeon wanted to operate we were in lockdown. Finally got it done at the end of 2020 and the surgeon said he could've repaired the tear in March 2020 (by splicing in blood vessels) but because of the passage of time had no option but to instead remove what was torn.

Originally Posted by DiscoDB

but because of this since 2022 we seem to have the balance right.

shakes head and wanders off....

Originally Posted by 101RRS

Yes is a very real issue - friend was diagnosed with prostate cancer early 2020 - was initially diagnosed as low level so no medical intervention at the time. Each time he then went to the hospital for follow up checkup was turned away due influx of Covid patients. Tested by his doctor a few weeks back and his cancer is now high level and needs urgent intervention but the system is still overloaded and is waiting for treatment.

His elderly mother fell and is in hospital - another patient was admitted and tested positive for covid in hospital - all staff in contact are out. The hospital has only about half the staff and one shift did not have a doctor. My friend with the cancer going back and forth to the hospital to see to his mum has started coughing up blood - I suggested he speak to someone at the hospital but will wait until he sees his GP next.

Yes Covid has had and is having a major impact on treatment for other ailments.

Absolutely.
I ha a friend who had stage 4 cancer, just after everyone had their 2nd booster in the COVID pandemic, he was going to be operated on, but due to the number of unvaccinated COVID people in hospital, he was put off, they said that due to the nature of the operation he would be a serious risk of getting COVID so would have to wait. He waited and waited, then he died from it.
Yes people have a right to choose to be vaccinated or not, but do they have the right to affect someone’s life by not being vaccinated? The last time i spoke to him the Dr said that, and I quote him “due to the number of unvaccinated people in hospital with COVID you would be a serious risk and we cannot take that chance” he died because some people just didn’t get a vaccination.
I wonder what would happen if they started to introduce the seatbelt as compulsory now??

Originally Posted by Arapiles

That caught my eye .... Melbourne to Sao Paulo via Doha?? So, over Africa and the Atlantic?

I checked Qatar's website and their direct flight does indeed do that .... did you get to see any of Africa in daylight or was that part during the night?

Actually that was the best part of the trip - flying over Africa during the day. Perfect clear weather.

Originally Posted by incisor

shakes head and wanders off....

Heh heh….just make sure your mask is on.

US v Australia Covid was a win for us (yet may change??)
A very different cultures of trust.

"MELBOURNE, Australia — If the United States had the same Covid death rate as Australia, about 900,000 lives would have been saved. The Texas grandmother who made the perfect pumpkin pie might still be baking. The Red Sox-loving husband who ran marathons before Covid might still be cheering at Fenway Park. For many Americans, imagining what might have been will be painful. But especially now, at the milestone of one million deaths in the United States, the nations that did a better job of keeping people alive show what Americans could have done differently and what might still need to change. Many places provide insight. Japan. Kenya. Norway. But Australia offers perhaps the sharpest comparisons with the American experience. Both countries are English-speaking democracies with similar demographic profiles. In Australia and in the United States, the median age is 38. Roughly 86 percent of Australians live in urban areas, compared with 83 percent of Americans. Yet Australia’s Covid death rate sits at one-tenth of America’s, putting the nation of 25 million people (with around 7,500 deaths) near the top of global rankings in the protection of life."

NY times yarn cut

I add our better outcome may change as 40+ dead per day in Australia each day now is NOT optimal in my view. That is increasing not decreasing may be of interest?

Noted 4000 odd flu cases in Vic reported is adding to the carnage

Excuse me for being a depressing new comment type sod Flip flop time

Ran 20+km yesterday. Dog got a 10km warm up run. A cool country run in Traralgon at the Oldest marathon in Australia is scheduled - far more my state of mind promise


Mask up if in crowds is optional legally across OZ now. Running in Mask is tougher than it might seem . Happily the country air and my now plodding pace makes me safe over distances. I Also sweat like the proverbial when running fast so everyone keeps a good distance from me

Originally Posted by NavyDiver

US v Australia Covid was a win for us (yet may change??)
A very different cultures of trust.

"MELBOURNE, Australia — If the United States had the same Covid death rate as Australia, about 900,000 lives would have been saved. The Texas grandmother who made the perfect pumpkin pie might still be baking. The Red Sox-loving husband who ran marathons before Covid might still be cheering at Fenway Park. For many Americans, imagining what might have been will be painful. But especially now, at the milestone of one million deaths in the United States, the nations that did a better job of keeping people alive show what Americans could have done differently and what might still need to change. Many places provide insight. Japan. Kenya. Norway. But Australia offers perhaps the sharpest comparisons with the American experience. Both countries are English-speaking democracies with similar demographic profiles. In Australia and in the United States, the median age is 38. Roughly 86 percent of Australians live in urban areas, compared with 83 percent of Americans. Yet Australia’s Covid death rate sits at one-tenth of America’s, putting the nation of 25 million people (with around 7,500 deaths) near the top of global rankings in the protection of life."

NY times yarn cut

I add our better outcome may change as 40+ dead per day in Australia each day now is NOT optimal in my view. That is increasing not decreasing may be of interest?

Noted 4000 odd flu cases in Vic reported is adding to the carnage

Excuse me for being a depressing new comment type sod Flip flop time

Ran 20+km yesterday. Dog got a 10km warm up run. A cool country run in Traralgon at the Oldest marathon in Australia is scheduled - far more my state of mind promise


Mask up if in crowds is optional legally across OZ now. Running in Mask is tougher than it might seem . Happily the country air and my now plodding pace makes me safe over distances. I Also sweat like the proverbial when running fast so everyone keeps a good distance from me

And the death rate could be 10 times less again if people didn’t have multiple underlying medical conditions (the health crisis that rarely gets discussed).

Certainly not a reason to be complacent but I am glad to be in Australia.