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    Inexperienced drivers and the law.

    Some of you may have noticed proposals in NSW to "tighten laws on P plate drivers".

    Two recent events locally might help suggest how effective this is likely to be:-

    Yesterday the Newell Highway near Gilgandra was closed for hours while the remains of a car and driver were removed from under a B-double. Took nearly 48 hours to identify the driver as they had to collect all the bits to check dental records. The car was stolen.

    Today a driver was clocked at 159km/hr on the Mitchell highway (100km/hr limit, red P 90). It was found that the driver had had her Provisional Licence suspended , and the car was unregistered and uninsured.

    Now, given the disregard of the law shown by these examples, one in a fatal accident and the other apparently trying to have one, how much effect will a passenger restriction or curfew have on this type of driver? It seems to me that the only ones that will be affected would be the law abiding ones, who probably would not be having the accidents in the first place.

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    People like that give us Teens a bad name

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mud_Bogger6
    People like that give us Teens a bad name
    Yes, I suspect you are right. I was interested to see some statistics recently regarding the sex life of teens - males 16-21 are the group most likely to have multiple sexual partners; which seems to contradict the other statistic - the same age range of males is the group most likely to have no sex partners at all.
    I suspect the same applies to driving habits - a small cohort of the group has an atrocious attitude to driving and contributes nearly all the statistics and front page news, where the majority have a fairly good driving attitude and contribute little to either statistics or news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW
    Some of you may have noticed proposals in NSW to "tighten laws on P plate drivers".

    Two recent events locally might help suggest how effective this is likely to be:-

    Yesterday the Newell Highway near Gilgandra was closed for hours while the remains of a car and driver were removed from under a B-double. Took nearly 48 hours to identify the driver as they had to collect all the bits to check dental records. The car was stolen.

    Today a driver was clocked at 159km/hr on the Mitchell highway (100km/hr limit, red P 90). It was found that the driver had had her Provisional Licence suspended , and the car was unregistered and uninsured.

    Now, given the disregard of the law shown by these examples, one in a fatal accident and the other apparently trying to have one, how much effect will a passenger restriction or curfew have on this type of driver? It seems to me that the only ones that will be affected would be the law abiding ones, who probably would not be having the accidents in the first place.

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    Yep, exactly. Nothing you can do to stop these kids. I think in some (but not all) cases the parents should also be held responsible.

    I'm not so sure the banning of certain cars will be so effective. A datsun 120y can go plenty fast enough to render a body unreconisable (particularly if there is a cliff involved) ie, a vn 6cyl commodore is light and has plenty of power to be a rocketship. I notice that the Elise isn't banned... LOL

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    I'm gettin a landy so....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mud_Bogger6
    I'm gettin a landy so....
    You won't have to worry so much about "speed kills" LOL Substitute it for the drug instead

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    I am only a young guy [23] and have been driving since i was 17. Unfortunately this situation that has claimed too many young lives is like the rest of society, the noisy minority giving the majority trouble. For the most part, P platers are sensible drivers but there are always a few loose cannons. But this is no different, you still see the same amount of reckless driving from people who have been driving for 20 years.

    While it is very unfortunate to hear that, each day, they have to scrape some young person from the front of a truck or from around a power pole, tightening the laws with curfews or passenger limits, will have little to no effect. There will still be P plater deaths because the drivers are still too inexperienced to handle a car properly, despite what they may think themselves.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW
    Yes, I suspect you are right. I was interested to see some statistics recently regarding the sex life of teens - males 16-21 are the group most likely to have multiple sexual partners; which seems to contradict the other statistic - the same age range of males is the group most likely to have no sex partners at all.
    I can just imagine a survey conductor walking up to a bunch of 16-21 year old males and asking how many sexual partners they have had
    I bet they are very truthful.

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    Its worse than atrocious. It comes from a general lack of respect for traffic law and road rules. Sure you managed to speed today without killing anyone but will that be the case tomorrow? Heres something to make you think. People bitch about road law enforcement, Out of the last five years, the year with the most murders gave us 76 people murdered in Qld. In the same year over 320 people were killed on the road. Further to this over 30,000 people were hospitalised for crash injuries in Qld alone. Everyone of those crashes was avoidable by following the road rules. People think it isnt important to do becase they get away with breaking them so often. I am positive that each of those people killed and hospitalised didnt set out that morning to have a car crash!
    Any change in law that can save just one persons life is worth it. If it takes the licence of a P plater and saves one of their friends life then job well done. Young people are horrendously over represented in road toll statistics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mud_Bogger6
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    P-platers in NSW are banned from driving V8 Land Rovers - even Stage 1s!

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