Makes you wonder why the driver does'nt die of---
Oxygen starvation
Electrocution
Inertia crush
Heat exposure
Schrapnel wounds
Deafness,
Or Bankruptcy![]()
Subject: Year 11 Physics. Speed, Energy, Acceleration.
Year 12 Chemistry. Energy and rates of reaction.
Uni Philosophy 1. Scientific Trivia and deduction
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First, some useful info:
One Top Fuel dragster 500 cubic inch Hemi engine makes more horsepower than the first 4 rows at the Daytona 500.
Under full throttle, a Top Fuel dragster engine consumes 1½ gallons of nitromethane per second; a fully loaded 747 consumes jet fuel at the same rate with 25% less energy being produced.
A stock Dodge 426 Hemi V8 engine cannot produce enough power to drive the dragster's supercharger.
With 3000 CFM of air being rammed in by the supercharger on overdrive, the fuel mixture is compressed into a near-solid form before ignition. Cylinders run on the verge of hydraulic lock at full throttle.
At the stoichiometric 1.7:1 air/fuel mixture for nitromethane the flame front temperature measures 7050 degrees F.
Nitromethane burns yellow. The spectacular white flame seen above the stacks at night is raw burning hydrogen, dissociated from atmospheric water vapor by the searing exhaust gases.
Dual magnetos supply 44 amps to each spark plug. This is the output of an arc welder in each cylinder.
Spark plug electrodes are totally consumed during a pass. After 1/2 way, the engine is dieseling from compression plus the glow of exhaust valves at 1400 degrees F. The engine can only be shut down by cutting the fuel flow.
If spark momentarily fails early in the run, unburned nitro builds up in the affected cylinders and then explodes with sufficient force to blow cylinder heads off the block in pieces or split the block in half.
In order to exceed 300 mph in 4.5 seconds dragsters must accelerate at an average of over 4G's. In order to reach 200 mph well before half-track, the launch acceleration approaches 8G's.
Dragsters reach over 300 miles per hour before you have completed reading this sentence.
Top Fuel Engines turn approximately 540 revolutions from light to light!
Including the burnout the engine must only survive 900 revolutions under load.
The red-line is actually quite high at 9500 rpm.
The Bottom Line; Assuming all the equipment is paid off, the crew worked for free, and for once NOTHING BLOWS UP, each run costs an estimated $1,000.00 per second. The current Top Fuel dragster elapsed time record is 4.441 seconds for the quarter mile (10/05/03, Tony Schumacher). The top speed record is 333.00 mph (533 km/h) as measured over the last 66' of the run (09/28/03 Doug Kalitta).
Putting all of this into perspective:
You are riding the average $250,000 Honda Moto GP bike. Over a mile up the road, a Top Fuel dragster is staged and ready to launch down a quarter mile strip as you pass. You have the advantage of a flying start. You run the RC211V hard up through the gears and blast across the starting line and past the dragster at an honest 200 mph (293 ft/sec). The 'tree' goes green for both of you at that moment. The dragster launches and starts after you. You keep your wrist cranked hard, but you hear an incredibly brutal whine that sears your eardrums and within 3 seconds the dragster catches and passes you. He beats you to the finish line, a quarter mile away from where you just passed him.
Think about it, from a standing start, the dragster had spotted you 200 mph and not only caught, but nearly blasted you off the road when he passed you within a mere 1320 foot long race course.
Makes you wonder why the driver does'nt die of---
Oxygen starvation
Electrocution
Inertia crush
Heat exposure
Schrapnel wounds
Deafness,
Or Bankruptcy![]()
They are some pretty impressive numbers however some of them are not correct. The fuel flow of a 747 in the cruise is around the 1 gallon per second. However on takeoff the 747 generates thrust equivalent to about 120 000 hp. Even throttled back to 50% power that 60 000 hp. As far as i know top fuel dragsters put out about 3000hp. Still an impressive amount.
WR.
84' 120" ute - 3.9 isuzu.
Gotta love those Fuellers, they litterally make the ground shake
That's a wicked waste of power, would a turbo be more efficiant?Originally Posted by weeds
Turbo might be more efficient, but it doesn't give the instant power a drag car requires.
I believe i can shed some light on this as i have been around these cars most of my life. [My dad used to own Dragster Australia magazine and until recently work at the WSID complex in Sydney.]
A top fuel dragster engine produces slightly over 7000 hp. They are the fastest accelerating, internal-combustion-engine-powered anything on the planet. They cover the first 60ft of the track in about 0.7 of a second, and by this time they are doing over a 100km/h. Makes a Porsche 911 0-100 time seem quite poor actually.
The drivers sit inside a titanium alloy roll cage that is unbelievably strong.
Many drivers now have a solid titanium alloy 'helmut' that sits around the rollcage after a very unfortunate accident in the U.S last year. The seat on which they sit has no padding, only thier 5-point harness. Very few drivers are seriously hurt in drag racing. However, like all motor sports, there are the very few who have lost their lives which is always unfortunate.
My favourite quote to describe the take-off of a top fuel dragster was from Phil Read [Jim Read's son and current Australian champ].
"On take off, if it doesn't hurt, you weren't going fast enough"
CaptJimmy
Can anyone confirm that Top fuelers are only allowed to run roots type blowers?
A recently visited hotrod forum suggested that Turbos would run the same times with however a much higher top speed, therefore band in the name of safety.
A long time ago I visited the Champion Spark Plug development dyno room in Long Beach. I was taken there by the late Dale Drake of Meyer & Drake (makers of Offenhausers). Dale was an all round good and decent bloke. He wanted to show me a turbo Offy Indianapolis car engine on the dyno. Most impressive too, indicated 1400 hp @ 9500 for 10 minutes on methanol blend with the waste gate fixed shut. Not bad for 153 cubic inches. Noise even through double filled block walls was really something. There was a guy waiting to put his research project back on the dyno for some development. This was a twin stage (big blower feeding into a smaller blower) Roots blown Hemi for a AA fuel dragster. He said he calculated that at full stick the two blowers were drawing over 2000hp and he was hoping to get 4-5000+ horses out the back. I presume in the ensuing thirty or so years that this target has been well and truly surpassed with development and improvements.Originally Posted by chriso
Last edited by Bigbjorn; 7th December 2006 at 12:15 PM.
URSUSMAJOR
There have been several attempts at trying to run top fuelers with turbos rather than a supercharger and even one attempt that i know of with a car trying to run both, in a sequential format [i.e. supercharger then feeds exhaust gases to spin the turbos].
The main problem with the twin design was the exhaust gases are produced in such volumes, so quickly, that it used to push the turbos off the block.
I think the problem with using turbos anyway is that nitromethane burns at such a high temp, the exhaust gases are so hot they tend to bugger the turbos up pretty quickly.
CaptJimmy
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