Thread: Defender mud flaps, to have or not to have?

We only have one left and that one is just hanging on!

Truck gets covered in mud and generally those in the back seat can't see a thing out of their windows

Going to replace them but I'm thinking about just making my own instead of buying them.

A 'do - gooder' type question - are you still roadworthy without them - when I first registered my series 3 it was knocked back because it didn't have mudflaps (the two new rubber floor mats fixed that about 15 minutes later) and I did get pulled over for a RTA roadside check a couple of years later and they measured the flaps to ensure things were legal.

Gazzz

Originally Posted by garrycol

A 'do - gooder' type question - are you still roadworthy without them - when I first registered my series 3 it was knocked back because it didn't have mudflaps (the two new rubber floor mats fixed that about 15 minutes later) and I did get pulled over for a RTA roadside check a couple of years later and they measured the flaps to ensure things were legal.

Gazzz

Interesting question - I would nearly bet that a 110 is not roadworthy without mud flaps, but I query the S3 - certainly as far as I can remember, no S1, S2 or S2a ever came with mudflaps, and I doubt most S3s did, but I suspect that they became compulsory some time during S3 production, along with other things not previously fitted like heaters, demisters, windscreen washers, seat belts, reversing lights, and so on.

And while you can run a S2 without mud flaps because it never came with them, because the 110 did come with them, and they were required by ADRs by then, you must have them - although you would stand a good chance of getting away without most of the time.

John

After ripping both of mine I have shortened them. They are now about half the original lenth, look good and at least sort of look legal. Haven't snagged them since.

This has been discussed a few times on outerlimits (quote is copied from there). A few people on there in QLD and NSW have been given tickets for not having mud flaps.

ADR 15.2.4 Wheel guards may consist of either permanent body structure or part structure and other components, including mud flaps, provided the specified protection is retained during vehicle operation. ADR 15.2.4 deals with axle groups as in trucks. ADR 15.2.5 states that: Notwithstanding the requirements specified above (groups of axles) the wheel gaurd including a mud flap (if fitted) need not be less than 230mm from the ground for other than off- road vehicles, or 300mm in the case of vehicles designed for off- road operation. ADR15.3.2 The wheels of a vehicle and the wheel of a side car must be fitted with wheel gaurds of width not less than the section width of the tyre. The wheel gaurds must be so designed as to protect other raod users, as far as practicable, against thrown up stones,mud, ice snow and water and to reduce for those users the dangers due to contact with the moving wheels. ADR 15.3.3.1 The wheel gaurd provided for the rear wheel must extend not less than from a point vertically above the foremost part of the wheel rearward to a point not higher thanthe intersection of the arc of the wheel with a line through the centre of the wheel at 45 degrees to a horizontal plane through the centre of the wheel. The last bit I have left out as it refers to side cars.

Basically the ADRs mean that 4x4s MUST be fitted with mud flaps that extend to within 30cm of the ground. Now ADRs are not usually retrospective, so series LRs would only have to comply with the ADRs that were in place when they were built.

Originally Posted by isuzurover

Basically the ADRs mean that 4x4s MUST be fitted with mud flaps that extend to within 30cm of the ground. Now ADRs are not usually retrospective, so series LRs would only have to comply with the ADRs that were in place when they were built.

But the question is, what is the date of this ADR - does it apply to any Series 3? Does it apply to ALL 110s?

John

my answer would be the same as a motor bike the mudflap has to be to the centre of the wheel (axle) no matter size wheels you run

i dont know if the law has changed but thats what it used to be

i remember when i got a s11 registered years ago i had to put mud flaps on

even when i registered motor bikes years ago the same thing stood

Originally Posted by JDNSW

But the question is, what is the date of this ADR - does it apply to any Series 3? Does it apply to ALL 110s?

John

My 1981 Stage 1 has mudflaps. My 1985 110 has mudflaps. I'd be confident all 110's had them, and "need" them. The Stage 1 has them at the rear crossmember. An option to avoid damage might be have them attached above the level of the crossmember, or perhaps hanging on chains like the B&S utes.