Thread: A crims rights

G'day Folks

Way back in the 1970's when I was living and working in Sydney,and commuting by motorcycle, a friend and fellow motorcyclist, was hit head-on and killed,by an Ethnic "Gentleman" on a 4 lane suburburn road,by the time the police arrived approx 4 minutes,(after radio call from cabbie) the said "Gentleman" was sexually assaulting the upper torso of the unconcious 15 yr old female pillion passenger,while he massaged himself,Sergeant was not impressed 0.126 when at the court case, he got 10 weekends detention(upstanding citizen) did 2 then "went home his country" Sgt. gave us,the deceased friends, his address, 31/2 years later he walked into the local pub, slipped in the male toilets,4 broken ribs, broken jaw and both lower legs broken bar manager,(also a motorcyclist) called ambulance stating an accident, local Sgt. visited several days later, "Thank You Fellas" bedside court case 5 years custodial sentence 3 years non-parole

"What goes around comes around"

Only sad part about it was the girlfriend never got over it,or the court case, and died of a Heroin OD before offender was released

cheers

As a property owner in the UK, IF I remove a staircase inside one of my houses and SECURE the property then a scum bag breaks in and falls don the missing staircase I can be SUED! How crazy is that?

As far as I am concerned anyone knowingly breaking the law loses their civil rights. Breaking into someones house, i.e. forced entry then they LOSE their rights as they are committing a criminal act.

End of story as far as I am concerned but not as far as the do gooders are concerned!

Regards


Brendan

I used to know, from lunchtime sessions at the Salisbury pub, men who worked for a security patrols company. The trainer said he instructed trainees that if they came across an armed or threatening intruder on patrolled premises they should call out loudly several times "Stop or I'll shoot", fire a warning shot into the ceiling if indoors or the ground if outdoors, and if the intruder continues then shoot the intruder. He used to tell them it was a good idea for the warning shot to be the second shot but to keep that to yourself. He also used to tell them to keep a good solid 12"-18" steel bar in the car, with the handle wrapped in plastic tape. Make sure the bar is clean of your prints and kept in a clean bag. Then when you have to shoot an intruder you put his prints all over the bar so your claim of being threatened by an armed and dangerous intruder can be substantiated.

G'day Brian

That sounds like the old MSS training manual

Originally Posted by UncleHo

G'day Brian

That sounds like the old MSS training manual

Hi, Ho. Actually was Wormalds

Originally Posted by RonMcGr

Well, this is the South Australian version of the law,
"Defence of property A person is entitled to use such conduct as he or she genuinely believes is necessary to defend property from being taken, destroyed, damaged or interfered with; to prevent criminal trespass; or to arrest someone unlawfully at large - as long as the conduct was reasonably proportionate to the threat the defendant genuinely believed to exist (see also: Home invasion), and if the conduct resulted in death, the defendant did not act recklessly or intend to cause death."

NSW, Lawyers out to help the thief?? George Sten & Co Sydney - your rights under arrest



Interesting...

A couple of years ago, some young punks tried a home invasion in Adelaide.
Barged in to an old man's home, got a lot of trouble. He was a former Olympic shooter. 1 X 80 plus year old man with a gun, you know the rest?
That's right, the old bloke being invaded and threatened ended up on attempted murder charges.
Then we told the government to get it right or we will shoot you. (sort of)

Now, in SA, If I don't know you, Meet my mate, the baseball bat.
We are a progressive mob over here aren't we, we even recognise the rights of good folks, as well as scum bags.

You dont have to wait untill you are hit before defending your self the threat is enought but you cannot use more than "reasonable force". In nsw you cannot use force to protect property, only yourself or another persons safety. I recently attended course on use of force, you do not have to use equal force you may use enought force to stop an attack but no more. If you do you may be charged with assault, but if they are unable to argue (ie dead) what ever you say goes.

Bring in Castle Doctrine.

Basically it means that crims take responsibility for themselves when breaking and entering. The burden of proof of self defense moves to the prosecution. (they need to prove that you weren't defending yourself.) And the victim is protected from any civil suit against them.

W