Thread: Rudds apology

try this article and ....

Kevin Rudd says sorry - National - smh.com.au

chance for a new page in our history as they say, people

I'm sure that compensation (if any) is quite affordable

1: why should they get compensation? they want equality, if they want money, they can work like the rest of us

2: anyone else wonder what wouldve happened if say, one of our asian neighbors had colonised australia instead of the brits? there wouldnt be any sorry days, no apologies, no compensation, no "stolen" generation, nothing like that...... why? theres a VERY good chance there wouldnt be any aboriginals to say sorry to

am i sorry? what for?

Who's going to say sorry to all the Liverpool? children who were taken to Australia around the same time?

No-one...

This was a total waste of time and taxpayers ....

kRudd does not represent me in this nation...


Now he's recognised that the "land belongs to the indigenous" who's going to be happy when they come and claim back their land that your house is on?


Its very simple people... The older residents of this place are part of a conquered race....

Like what has happened in many other places throughout the world...

Deal with it people....

And how far advanced would these people be if explorers hadnt come here? They seem to sure enjoy the benefits of modern society...

Krudd's so called "motion" that was actually a speech, i thought was formulated to make the evil white man feel good about himself again.
i reckon although a lot of people shunned brendan nelson's speech, his was the closest to the truth.i didn't vote for Krudd and i am glad to see that my judgement was right. with this and Kyoto, he will send this country broke!
back in the day, there would have been an element of racism involved. as nelson said, they probably were under the misguided impression they were doing what was best for these children.
hindsight shows us what a ridiculous policy it was to take half-caste children away from their parents. white Australia were told they weren't accepted by their extended families.
this was also the era when we were heavily under british direction and influenced by their policies. testing nuclear bombs in our back yard for instance.
i cannot be held responsible for the actions of my forefathers, and i have nothing to be $orry about.
i do see that what happened to these poor little kids was wrong and whatever it takes, steps should be made to make restitution.
compensation has lost it's meaning in this day and age, these days it seems it's meaning is closer to "shut up" money.
how can you compensate someone for this sort of regime? i suppose everyone has their price!
i don't know how the majority of aboriginal people feel about this, the rent-a-crown we saw on the news may not be indicative of the wider aboriginal community. i hope i'm wrong and it magically fixes everything.
there are members of this forum and the LROC that will be directly affected by this, some of them i know and would call friends, and i hope for their sake, this day makes a difference to them.
it's people like Mick Dodson that will ruin it for everyone and spoil any hope of reconcilliation that may have been in the sights today.

Surely if one makes the argument that by saying sorry, compensation will be forthcoming. Then the theoretical possibility of a court of law granting compensation in a specific case would denote that a wrong had been done. If a wrong had been done, worthy of said compensation, then surely an apology for such action is a fundamental human decency.

If I was a low life oxygen thief who stole your pride and joy D3 from your drive, then crashed it, you sure as hell would want me to be sorry... wouldnt you??? (this is not directed at an individual, merely an illustration)

When human beings are wronged, there is an inbuilt desire and need for justice. An apology is a part of that.

By the above argument, if no compensation is granted, that will indicate either that no wrong was ever done or that the "victim" has accepted said apology, forgiven and moved on. Only time will tell which will occur in this case.

I hope that today is a part of all australians taking part in:

"Deal with it people...."

regards
Steve


btw, i have just finished listening to the 55min video link on the abc.net.com.au, was worth listening too irrespective of your take on this issue.

Will the relatives of "The Man" apologise to me for the stolen camera and other items from my car.

I got the camera back when I "made a citizens arrest" of one of the perpetrators but not anything else or the damage to the locks on my Rangie. Although the one who was arrested wanted an apology from me, actually she wanted me arrested for restraining her. Yes she was a first cousin of "The Man".

Will they also apologise to me for the several episodes of fare evasion when I was driving a taxi?

Diana

Originally Posted by roverrescue

Surely if one makes the argument that by saying sorry, compensation will be forthcoming. Then the theoretical possibility of a court of law granting compensation in a specific case would denote that a wrong had been done. If a wrong had been done, worthy of said compensation, then surely an apology for such action is a fundamental human decency.

If I was a low life oxygen thief who stole your pride and joy D3 from your drive, then crashed it, you sure as hell would want me to be sorry... wouldnt you??? (this is not directed at an individual, merely an illustration)

When human beings are wronged, there is an inbuilt desire and need for justice. An apology is a part of that.

By the above argument, if no compensation is granted, that will indicate either that no wrong was ever done or that the "victim" has accepted said apology, forgiven and moved on. Only time will tell which will occur in this case.

I hope that today is a part of all australians taking part in:

"Deal with it people...."

regards
Steve


btw, i have just finished listening to the 55min video link on the abc.net.com.au, was worth listening too irrespective of your take on this issue.

I fully agree Steve. It would be a shame if we had some dues to us, such as compensation, but this was denyed because somebody just didn't want to bear the financial burden. Likewise, as Australians didn't want live under Japanese rule, just perhaps the Aboriginal people were happy living a traditional life and the whole problem has come about because 1 persons values and ideal were forced upon anothers, and it obviously continues.

I watched the speech today.
I'm disappointed, but not in the speech.
I'm disappointed in some of the attitudes displayed in the previous posts.
I thought the country had grown up a bit today but there's clearly work to do yet.