Thread: bloody road works

Originally Posted by Ace

There is a corner like that near here, its at the bottom of a very steep hill on the way to mudgee, if you go around it to fast it sucks you into oncoming traffic, but putting a big reduce speed now sign is much easier and cheaper than fixing it.

LA, i dont know if its that high in clay, the graders are spreading it out at the moment, its grey in colour but the paste that is being formed with the rain is nearly white.

Porcelain.

Cheers
Simon

Hi Joel/Ace
Do they have YELLOW speed signs less than the rest of the road???
If not they should,complain to your relevent authoritory.
The yellow sighs indicate the max recomended safest speed on the bend.
Your regulatory signs black on white state the max roadspeed.
What everybody misses is you have to "drive to conditions" ie its the drivers responsability to drive at the safe speed to suit road conditions at the time.
Its a big grey area,and Im sure if your insurance co can prove you arent"driving to conditions" you get no payout.
We get plenty trying to sue the shire for a write-off after an insurance refusal.
No winning claims yet!!!
Andrew

Originally Posted by LandyAndy

Till you have been there and done it you will never know the full story. ...

... Andrew

Andrew

I'm not having a go at road workers, I'm having a go at transport management engineers. "The road works".

• How many new roads have been designed with the camber on a corner sloping the wrong way? e.g. Princes Highway and Foxground Road near Berry NSW.
• Intersections where the alignment of the road/lane changes half way across the intersection. Princess Highway (northbound) and old Princess Highway Loftus NSW.
• Major Highways that get built with less lanes the closer they get to the City - Hume Highway to M5 East NSW.
• Bus stops put before an intersection so that all traffic gets stopped by the right turn at the same intersection. Cleveland Street (westbound) and Crown Street Surry Hills NSW.
• Destination Road Signs placed after the intersection. General Holmes Drive and Southern Cross Drive (Northbound) Mascot NSW.
• Synchronising of traffic lights everywhere.
• Building huge shopping developments, with multiple unsynchronised traffic lights - when the developer should have been required to put overpasses. Windsor Road - Rouse Hill Town Centre NSW

Should I go on?

Diana

Less lanes closer to the city... ha! The Feds must love Victoria, 320 km of dual carriageway bliss for us

Originally Posted by Lotz-A-Landies

Andrew

I'm not having a go at road workers, I'm having a go at transport management engineers. "The road works".

• How many new roads have been designed with the camber on a corner sloping the wrong way? e.g. Princes Highway and Foxground Road near Berry NSW.
• Intersections where the alignment of the road/lane changes half way across the intersection. Princess Highway (northbound) and old Princess Highway Loftus NSW.
• Major Highways that get built with less lanes the closer they get to the City - Hume Highway to M5 East NSW.
• Bus stops put before an intersection so that all traffic gets stopped by the right turn at the same intersection. Cleveland Street (westbound) and Crown Street Surry Hills NSW.
• Destination Road Signs placed after the intersection. General Holmes Drive and Southern Cross Drive (Northbound) Mascot NSW.
• Synchronising of traffic lights everywhere.
• Building huge shopping developments, with multiple unsynchronised traffic lights - when the developer should have been required to put overpasses. Windsor Road - Rouse Hill Town Centre NSW

Should I go on?

Diana

No Need at all!!!
Everything you list has nothing to do with us blokes shifting the dirt.
you build what you are told to!!!!
You put up the signs you are given!!!!
Cambers that are wrong,hard call.
Just done 2 bends where the camber cant possibly shaped as they need to be.
Ive driven heaps an said its all the wrong camber,drive a grader and try and rectify,not always possible due to the next bend,fill required and a lot of other stuff.
Never been over to see the roads you are talking about.
Andrew

Originally Posted by joel_nicholson

Less lanes closer to the city... ha! The Feds must love Victoria, 320 km of dual carriageway bliss for us

I love Melbourne urban roads!

How many lanes has the Northern Ring Road* got? Is it 8 or 10 in places it is great and it's free. Our Sydney equivalent the M7 has 4 lanes with a toll, the road sits on the crown of an embankment with no emergency lane and a down hill slope to a concrete wall. (The road works - it killed a woman in the first week it was open.)

The big problem with Melbourne is that my Navman gets all confused and wants to send me down Hoddle Street, when I want to go from the Hume Freeway to Pakenham.

Diana

* Or is it the Metropolitan Ring Road?- my Navman is confused about that as well!

Originally Posted by LandyAndy

No Need at all!!!
...
Cambers that are wrong,hard call.
Just done 2 bends where the camber cant possibly shaped as they need to be.
Ive driven heaps an said its all the wrong camber,drive a grader and try and rectify,not always possible due to the next bend,fill required and a lot of other stuff.
Never been over to see the roads you are talking about.
Andrew

The bend in question is an awkward one, I have driven past several fatal crashes at that intersection over 40 years. There have probably been dozens of serious crashes and probably tens of fatalities over the years.

It is a 2 lane road and LH 90 degree bend on a relatively steep down hill with an intersection to the right of the crown of the bend and it all slopes steeply to the right. Semi trailers come around the corner and understeer onto the wrong side of the road and collide head on.

It was on the National Highways during the Frazer years but is now a State responsibility for who knows why?

Diana

A friend wrote off her Charger on that corner.

Cheers
Simon