Thread: why toyota cruisers outsell landrovers

Land Rover lost the Australian market to Toyota by LR's refusal to produce a vehicle that had a decent highway cruising speed, by their refusal to fix glaring faults, and by their paternal pommie arrogance in refusing to even admit there were problems, or areas requiring simple improvement, or refusing to acknowledge that colonials might even have some idea what was wrong.

This attitude of "we make what we can make, or want to make, and you have to sell it even if the customers don't want it" was what sunk the British motor cycle industry first, then the truck industry, followed by most of their car industry.

All emotions and rot aside, its an excellent vehicle.

It comes in a range of colours and accessories, and all doors actually open when on display.

It also has an engine with power and torque outputs we wouldn't mind.

Credit where it is due - it might not be everyone's cup of tea but it does what its been developed to do.


MAKE NO MISTAKE THOUGH - the 200 series is an abomination and shall surely be put to death!

Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift

the photography's much better than the vehicle,,
what a pox box.
Its got all the style of a weeds haircut,,,,

Originally Posted by joel_nicholson

MAKE NO MISTAKE THOUGH - the 200 series is an abomination and shall surely be put to death!

I drove the twin turbo V8 diesel version last week. It may look weird but to drive one is fantastic. Only took it on bitumen suburban roads but it has refinement and power in bucket loads. I assume a D3 would be similar but I've never driven one.
Not a fan of the seats though. Very flat and you slide around in it when cornering. Steering felt disconnected from the wheels due to its smoothness. No feedback feel. Other than that it was awesome.
Would love to see a 200 Series and D3 off road comparison.

Originally Posted by weeds

oooooops!!!
protect me Guiness!!!

Another big selling point for toyota is it had John Laws behind it . Flogging it like a dead horse .Plus i don't think land rover advertise nowhere as much as toyota does on the TV . what land rover needs is a young advertising group to make adds like the pajero adds and pathfinder adds. land rover is a bit lame in this department .

Land Rover has that ad on tv at the moment which is selling the Discovery as 3 cars in one. Very upmarket looking.
Don't think I've seen an ad for the Freelander, Range Rover or Defender.

Originally Posted by Utemad

Land Rover has that ad on tv at the moment which is selling the Discovery as 3 cars in one. Very upmarket looking.
Don't think I've seen an ad for the Freelander, Range Rover or Defender.

Yes there was a Range Rover sport one a while back, mostly the RRS in glamour bling bling urban poses. - but hey - if Land Rover enthusiasts can't remember it it was pretty ineffectual wasn't it?

Land Rover all over - LRA probably doesn't realise that Land Rovers can go everywhere and not just St Ives, Tookak and the snowfields.

Diana