Reply With QuoteFirstly .. I smoke
What i don't get is .. Why in todays age and all the opportunities available, would anyone want to Own or Invest in a cigarette company
& where do kids get the money to actually buy the product
ForumSage
SupporterIn another thread, the issue of smoking in movies has been raised.
In the hope of stimulating some healthy debate, I would like to say that I believe there is a problem and that something needs to be done.
What is the evidence that there is a problem?
I would hope that there is no-one who is going to deny that smoking kills, so hopefully we can take that as proven beyond all shadow of a doubt.
In a recent survey teenagers were asked what percentage of adults they believed were smokers. Something like three quarters of them said that over half of adults smoked.
The correct figure is 24%.
So why do so many young people think that the majority of adults smoke?
There is strong evidence that it is because movies show so many people smoking that young people believe it is the norm.
For those who doubt the ability of movies to give an impression about what is normal or socially acceptable, how do you explain the huge drop in the sale of singlets when Errol Flynn was seen in a movie removing his shirt and horror of horrors, he wasn't wearing a singlet.
I believe that movies contribute to the false impression that smokers are in the majority.
I do not believe that censorship is the answer.
There has been a call from some medical source recently for gov't funding to be withheld from movies that promote smoking.
This may be the answer.
It is not censorship. Directors will still be free to make movies that show people smoking. Audiences will still be free to watch movies in which characters smoke. They will not be censored.
Under the proposal, the only difference will be that public money will no longer be available to promote the idea that smoking is common and socially acceptable. No longer will gov't funds be used to promote an activity which adds enormously to the public health bill.
Private investors frequently make decisions to withhold funds from projects because of some problems they have with the politics or philosophy of the promoters. Why shouldn't the gov't and therefore we the public have the same right to deny funding to an activity that adds so much to the cost of public health?
Let those who think it is a good idea for young people to be led to believe that smoking is common and acceptable provide the funding for films where characters smoke.
Firstly .. I smoke
What i don't get is .. Why in todays age and all the opportunities available, would anyone want to Own or Invest in a cigarette company
& where do kids get the money to actually buy the product
Master
Now just stand back and wait for the inevitable comparison between smokers and drinkers.
I'm a non smoker, my wife smokes and while it irritates me, I'm not pushing it on her to quit, firstly because it would be counter-productive and probably get me in the bad books, secondly because I drink and I'm not about to quit that.
Wizard
I may well be wrong, but it's my understanding the gov makes more out of tobacco taxes than it costs them in consequential health related issues .... go figure ..
Swaggie
Subscribercommonly known as the SIN taxesOriginally Posted by Rosco
I may well be wrong, but it's my understanding the gov makes more out of tobacco taxes than it costs them in consequential health related issues .... go figure ..
130's rule
ChatterBox
Devils advocate
Firstly I smoke like a chimney !!!!
So if smoking in films causes young people to smoke,
What does shooting people in films do
What does fornicating in films do
What does any other evil, dangerous, or illegal act in films do - be it simple speeding, using illegal drugs, murder, robbery etc., etc.,
Sorry but the theory just doesn't cut it with me
ChatterBox
So....it'll receive gov't funding if it has bad language, car chases, jokes degrading women, racist remarks, punch ups, random meaningless sex scenes, graffiti of the local church, arson of the local school and armed robbery - but no smoking?
C'mon get real
p.s. I'm not a smoker and agree with current bans on smoking in public places etc.
The Anti-Nance Man
Firstly I concur, secondly I am also trying to quit as well. I would also disagree with there being a huge amount of smoking in movies. I am a DVD addict and would say it is pretty rare to see someone smoking in a movie, in fact I actually notice it if someone is smoking.Devils advocate
Firstly I smoke like a chimney !!!!
So if smoking in films causes young people to smoke,
What does shooting people in films do
What does fornicating in films do
What does any other evil, dangerous, or illegal act in films do - be it simple speeding, using illegal drugs, murder, robbery etc., etc.,
Sorry but the theory just doesn't cut it with me
To me its a bit like the whole supposed binge drinking epidemic amongst our youths........like derr. I remember at age 16/17 emptying out half a 2 litre coke bottle and topping it up with JD, or before a Mentals as Anything concert, my mates and I mixing Bacardi and coke in our mouths as we had no cups. Seriously....what has changed?
Could some people take up smoking because they saw it in a movie, most likely yes. Many may try, like a lot of people due to experimentation. Out of all my mates I grew up with, I'm the only one who smoked and smoking in movies back then ie 20+ yrs ago was a lot more prevalent as was the advertising of smoking. Good topic though
Regards
Stevo
Wizard
But movies like Pulp Fiction would never become anything without a ciggie and a syringe. And if it wasn't for pulp fiction I would reclaim at least 24 hours of my life and possibly more in the future. Maybe it is how it is portrayed though. Like, when you watch Pulp Fiction it is put in to your mind that smoking is cool, it is sexy. And that's where the damage is.
The best one was Thank you for smoking and it did not have any one light up a ciggie- very impressive.
However- I do agree that smoking in certain areas is influencing kids badly but maybe we should just get parents to stop and then the kids won't take it up either.
Xav
ChatterBox
If they still showed ads like this and the Malboro Man - I'm sure plenty more people would give up.
Hoges Winny ads would get everyone started again though
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