Thread: which is officially best disco model than?

Originally Posted by feraldisco

Actually I'd argue that a D2 body with ACE and a juiced-up 300Tdi motor is the best of both world's - extra space/comfort without the many vagaries that go with the Td5. Having said that, I do like the ability to juice up a Td5 with a $550 chip upgrade alone...

Yes they drive nicer and there is more room but why the hell do you need ace......thats right it weighs about 3 tonne and leans too much so they put active suspention control under it to counter act the lean.

Take all the electronics out (including ACE) of a D2 and I would also have the body but nothing would work so it is a moot point.

The airbag issue is also something that should come into this because as it stands I havnt heard of anyone that has LEGALY body lifted a D1 or D2 with airbags.

Not that I want to body lift either but there are other mods that are more expensive because of airbags such as fitting bullbars and winches.

In my opinion, Electronics in motor vehicals have just made everything disposable, gone are the days of classic cars, you wont see any 50yo TD5 D2's around in the years to come but there may be a few Tdi's still banging about.

Originally Posted by mcrover

Yes they drive nicer and there is more room but why the hell do you need ace......

And that's the whole point - now that I own one it is a pleasure to drive in the country where I live.... Now all I have to do is tread lighter on the pedal to justify owning the beast. (My greenie daughter will probably not speak to me now).

Originally Posted by mcrover

Yes they drive nicer and there is more room but why the hell do you need ace......thats right it weighs about 3 tonne and leans too much so they put active suspention control under it to counter act the lean.

Take all the electronics out (including ACE) of a D2 and I would also have the body but nothing would work so it is a moot point.

The airbag issue is also something that should come into this because as it stands I havnt heard of anyone that has LEGALY body lifted a D1 or D2 with airbags.

Not that I want to body lift either but there are other mods that are more expensive because of airbags such as fitting bullbars and winches.

In my opinion, Electronics in motor vehicals have just made everything disposable, gone are the days of classic cars, you wont see any 50yo TD5 D2's around in the years to come but there may be a few Tdi's still banging about.

typical,, ACE vehicles are only ever bagged by people who dont own one.

raising a vehicle alters its COG significantly, full air suspension allows the vehicle to perform as well as normal AND raised vehicles.
and ride better to boot.

I'd MUCH rather have airbags and pay extra for a front bar,,
My families life is worth a lot more than the price difference between bars.

and you are entitled to your opinion,,
how are those solid rubber tyres going?

Ive owned D2 and a D1. I would have to say my D1 is the best of them both

I think this thread should have a poll
Anyway i think the best disco would have to be a d1 with a isuzu 4bd1t

TIM.

ACE is great...a bit of electronica with a real functional purpose on and off road and...um...reasonably reliable with no real servicing requirement (although I have had the fluid replaced despite there being no interval for this)...touch wood

ACE and polyairs have allowed me to run much softer suspension than I had on my D1 with obvious comfort and offroad benefits...

Originally Posted by Pedro_The_Swift

typical,, ACE vehicles are only ever bagged by people who dont own one.

raising a vehicle alters its COG significantly, full air suspension allows the vehicle to perform as well as normal AND raised vehicles.
and ride better to boot.

I'd MUCH rather have airbags and pay extra for a front bar,,
My families life is worth a lot more than the price difference between bars.

and you are entitled to your opinion,,
how are those solid rubber tyres going?

There's a big difference between something you dont have and something you dont want.

I didnt say it didnt work and do what it was designed to do and im sure it makes it better to drive but it isnt nessesary and it just covers up the inadaquacies of the rest of the vehical with electronics and hydraulics.

Full air suspension is a heap of rubbish after a few years, yes it does make a car comfy but the electronic control systems have NEVER been reliable even when new and we have all seen it, even on the D3 when one of the 4wd mags took it out for a test to the cape and it sat it's ass on the ground and needed a computer reboot and reprogram to get it underway again.

Thats what you want in the middle of nowhere isnt it.

If you dont take it off road then it is fine but why not just buy a Commodore or a Falcon if you dont need off road capability, it would be cheaper and they are relatively comfortable or if you want Luxo, get a Beama or Merc for the same money.

As far as airbags go.........PUT YOUR BLOODY SEAT BELT ON.......

Your going to get hurt in a car accident, drive accordingly and then have less accidents......makes more sense to me.

Air bags IMHO dont save all that much more injuries than what would be avoided if people would just be aware that it hurts when you hit the steering wheel or windscreen in an accident.

They are not nessesarilly a life saving device and were originally developed because in the US not all states have mandatory wearing of seat belts so they were (and still are) a SECONDARY restraint device.

If youve ever been punched in the nose buy a 6'10" brick poo house type bloke with a fist the size of a bessa block and just as hard.......well thats what it is like when the airbag goes off in your face.

My old next door neibour is still getting surgery on his eyes and nose from an AU 2 airbag when he had a head on.

The passanger (who didnt have an airbag) only had the bruising from the seatbelt and some cuts from glass where steve had all that plus broken eyesockets and broken nose from the air bag.

Yep real safe for your family.

On the tyre comment, the only tyres Ive ever had that were hard enough to be called solid were Coopers and I got rid of them with the Jeep thanks.

Im happy with my BFG's thanks.

Originally Posted by mcrover

As far as airbags go.........PUT YOUR BLOODY SEAT BELT ON.......

Your going to get hurt in a car accident, drive accordingly and then have less accidents......makes more sense to me.

Air bags IMHO dont save all that much more injuries than what would be avoided if people would just be aware that it hurts when you hit the steering wheel or windscreen in an accident.

Bit of a thread drift Mcrover but I can't let that one go.

I deliberately bought my 98 disco with airbags. I felt that it may help protect my family.

You are right about slowing down, driving carefully and wearing your seatbelt however there is plenty of evidence to suggest airbags do save lives.

Hospital urges safety first in cars

ACRS: Airbags

How safe are your airbags? | carsguide.com.au

Why survival is in the bag - drive.com.au

I had a friend who was driving carefully at 60kmh when an idiot coming the other way pushed a third vehicle into his path. What resulted was effectively a 120kmh collision - very nasty; no time to brake. He had his seatbelt on and was driving carefully and correctly - but he was in the wrong place at the wrong time. The airbag helped prevent a very serious injury. The other occupant was in a vehicle without airbags and was seriously injured.