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    Quote Originally Posted by RonMcGr View Post
    Ron,

    That is very true
    I'd love one of those 3.6 V8 twin turbo V8D's in my beast


    When I towed my son's van with the 300Tdi Disco, the Disco got 14 litres/100km (vs 10 litres/100km without a van). However, the 4.6 Rangie on LPG towed the same van far more comfortably, at greater speed (at about 100-110km/h), but consumed 29 litres/100km. That's twice the consumption of the diesel but the LPG was 1/3rd the price. The net difference is that the LPG cot 2/3 the price of diesel.

    Refuelling more often is a pain, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by p38arover View Post


    When I towed my son's van with the 300Tdi Disco, the Disco got 14 litres/100km (vs 10 litres/100km without a van). However, the 4.6 Rangie on LPG towed the same van far more comfortably, at greater speed (at about 100-110km/h), but consumed 29 litres/100km. That's twice the consumption of the diesel but the LPG was 1/3rd the price. The net difference is that the LPG cot 2/3 the price of diesel.

    Refuelling more often is a pain, though.
    Just remove the back seat and fit numerous large gas tanks and then you could get the same range and better economy as the diesel

    I know it is possible and there is nothing wrong with the theory but it just isnt practical.

    Stock standard on road bias tyres, no accessories hanging of them, a 300Tdi Disco can consistantly turn high 7's and low 8's.

    Ive heard of 300 Tdi Deefas doing similar.

    I think that is good enough and makes them bloody cheap to run for a 2 tonne brick which sits 2 feet off the ground.

    The Hybrid costing is spot on what I posted about them a few months ago that I read in a Casey council news letter thing about the Prius V Carolla but this study compared it to the Camry which is in a different class.

    Edit : Your post reminds me of the story of the Tourtis (sorry Ron sp?) and the Hare....

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcrover View Post
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    Edit : Your post reminds me of the story of the Tourtis (sorry Ron sp?) and the Hare....
    Tortoise (save Ron the trouble seeing he has eye problems).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mcrover View Post
    Just remove the back seat and fit numerous large gas tanks and then you could get the same range and better economy as the diesel


    Quote Originally Posted by mcrover View Post
    Stock standard on road bias tyres, no accessories hanging of them, a 300Tdi Disco can consistantly turn high 7's and low 8's.
    Not the way I drive! The Disco has HT tyres. The best I've got (cruising at speed) is 9.

    I think that is good enough and makes them bloody cheap to run for a 2 tonne brick which sits 2 feet off the ground.

    Quote Originally Posted by mcrover View Post
    Edit : Your post reminds me of the story of the Tourtis (sorry Ron sp?) and the Hare....
    Yep. The Disco towing a caravan is a tortoise!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mcrover View Post

    Stock standard on road bias tyres, no accessories hanging of them, a 300Tdi Disco can consistantly turn high 7's and low 8's.

    Ive heard of 300 Tdi Deefas doing similar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JDNSW View Post
    Of course some people just get what they have decided, and don't even try to justify it! (They usually are not married)

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post


    not sure what my 130 fender does pr/lt

    but i do know its costing me about $30 more a week to get to work
    from $50-$60 up to $80-$90
    130's rule

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    Quote Originally Posted by rovercare View Post
    Yep Matt but since then I have met 2 people one with a 2 door stock as a rock on Hankook road tyres who has it on paper that he gets consistantly into the high 7's but that isnt really taking into account any error correction of the odometer.

    The other is another white '97 model auto that is on 73ltrs got 863kms.....I work that out at around 8.4ltrs/100kms.

    I do make comments on what I see for myself and as I have said before, if you can prove that I am wrong I will change my mind.....no problems.

    All your post has proven Matt is that you know how to use the search button....horray for you.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by hiline View Post


    not sure what my 130 fender does pr/lt

    but i do know its costing me about $30 more a week to get to work
    from $50-$60 up to $80-$90

    And Im assuming that you are meaning that I have made some sort of mistake.

    I stated VERY CLEARLY in that post that I knew 12 other people who own Discoveries with 300Tdi's and none of them get below 8 l/100kms.

    At that time that was correct, since then I have met someone who showed me written proof which was enough for me to now post that it is possible to get into the high 7s which showed that he got 970kms out of 76ltrs....7.835ltr/100kms (2 door blue manual Lt77).......Yep it was a long trip that he did and as I stated it didnt account for any error in the odometer.

    I think that is pretty fair coment but I do understand that you wont and you will more than likely make some coment about I cant stick to anything and all that crap.

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    While I am not suggesting that anyone else is doing this, I have found an easy way to produce records that show I regularly use less than 7 litres/100k in my 300Tdi.

    It doesn't require any modifications either to the vehicle or my driving style.

    Here's how it works:
    • I start by ignoring the 6% error in my odometer to give my figures an extra little boost.
    • When the tank is getting down near half empty, I fill up and stop as soon as the nozzle clicks off. I have done about 310 km and put about 21 litres in.
    • I conveniently ignore the fact that if I kept dribbling fuel in, I could easily get another 7 litres in the tank.
    • I work out my consumption as 310 km on 21 litres = 6.9 litres/100k
    • Next time I fill up, I make sure that I fill the tank until diesel dribbles out all over my shoes, but I forget to write down the amount I put in.
    • By alternating these two filling techniques and only making a note of the consumption when the figures look good, I can regularly get low 7s or better.
    I have found that the same technique works if I feel the need to demonstrate that one brand of fuel is much better than another. I just use one brand on the quick careless fill and the other on the careful fill.

    You too can have fuel consumption figures that will either impress your mates or have them shaking their heads in disbelief.

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